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@Jhannybean
Heyo. whats the problem?
can you help me factor a trinomial
Yeah sure, whats the trinomial?
$$ \Large 8a^2 -18a -5 = 0 $$
\[8a^2 + 2a - 20a - 5\] factorise it.....
Yeah theres that way too haha
yep that works. factoring by grouping
Then theres this way for trinomials you cannot factor by grouping.
ya
Let me know where my steps dont make sense, :) \[\color{red}{8}a^2-18a\color{red}{-5}=0\]\[a^2-18a\color{red}{-40}=0\]\[(a-20)(a+2)=0\]NOw that you've simplified the polynomial into a simple quadratic so you can factor it, use the leading coefficient to redivide the factor so you can stay consistent with the original polynomial \[\left(a-\frac{20}{8}\right)\left(a+\frac{2}{8}\right)=0\]\[\left(a-\frac{5}{2}\right)\left(a+\frac{1}{4}\right)=0\]Now that your factors are completely simplified, you multiply the denominator of each factor, i.e the 2 and 4, to the variables to further simplify the fractional form. The way I show it is a shortcut, but the proper way to show it would be \[\left(\frac{2a-5}{2}\right)\left(\frac{4a+1}{4}\right)=0\]\[\left(\frac{2a-5}{\color{red}{2}}\right)\left(\frac{4a+1}{\color{red}{4}}\right)=\color{red}{0}\]The factors would now multiply eachother, and the value in the denominator gets multiplied to the 0. This becomes \[(2a-5)(4a+1)=0\]
Generally works for trinomials you cannot factor by grouping, I guess.
actually i think that if your method works, so does grouping.
are there any requarements what method to use?
i mean , if you can't factor by grouping then you won't be able to factor that way
No not really, I just test and check between grouping, completing the square and this method, called the box method.
well one of the easiest methods is quadratic formula. 8a^2-18a-5=0 use quadratic formula: (18+-sqrt(324+160))/16=(18+-22)/16=2.5 and -0.25. then factored form is 8*(x-2.5)*(x+0.25) grouping method is also one of methods, just longer to do in this case.
i'm refering to this comment "Generally works for trinomials you cannot factor by grouping, I guess."
Oh, hmm... I've tried factoring some trinomials before that I couldnt expand by grouping... and this method helped. Maybe I'm mistaken?
I mean, your method does not work for trinomials you cannot factor by grouping. for example $$ \Large { 2x^2 + 2x -5 } $$ We can't factor by grouping or use your method
Let's see
well there are soooo many different method to factor it and if leading coefficient isn't one then i like this method to factor quadratic equation ;P|dw:1428776262182:dw| factor first and last term |dw:1428776303133:dw| cross multiply and if you get middle term then (4a+1)( 2a -5) factor of 8a^2-18-5
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