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OpenStudy (perl):

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OpenStudy (perl):

@Jhannybean

OpenStudy (jhannybean):

Heyo. whats the problem?

OpenStudy (perl):

can you help me factor a trinomial

OpenStudy (jhannybean):

Yeah sure, whats the trinomial?

OpenStudy (perl):

$$ \Large 8a^2 -18a -5 = 0 $$

rishavraj (rishavraj):

\[8a^2 + 2a - 20a - 5\] factorise it.....

OpenStudy (jhannybean):

Yeah theres that way too haha

OpenStudy (perl):

yep that works. factoring by grouping

OpenStudy (jhannybean):

Then theres this way for trinomials you cannot factor by grouping.

OpenStudy (nincompoop):

ya

OpenStudy (jhannybean):

Let me know where my steps dont make sense, :) \[\color{red}{8}a^2-18a\color{red}{-5}=0\]\[a^2-18a\color{red}{-40}=0\]\[(a-20)(a+2)=0\]NOw that you've simplified the polynomial into a simple quadratic so you can factor it, use the leading coefficient to redivide the factor so you can stay consistent with the original polynomial \[\left(a-\frac{20}{8}\right)\left(a+\frac{2}{8}\right)=0\]\[\left(a-\frac{5}{2}\right)\left(a+\frac{1}{4}\right)=0\]Now that your factors are completely simplified, you multiply the denominator of each factor, i.e the 2 and 4, to the variables to further simplify the fractional form. The way I show it is a shortcut, but the proper way to show it would be \[\left(\frac{2a-5}{2}\right)\left(\frac{4a+1}{4}\right)=0\]\[\left(\frac{2a-5}{\color{red}{2}}\right)\left(\frac{4a+1}{\color{red}{4}}\right)=\color{red}{0}\]The factors would now multiply eachother, and the value in the denominator gets multiplied to the 0. This becomes \[(2a-5)(4a+1)=0\]

OpenStudy (jhannybean):

Generally works for trinomials you cannot factor by grouping, I guess.

OpenStudy (perl):

actually i think that if your method works, so does grouping.

OpenStudy (alexandervonhumboldt2):

are there any requarements what method to use?

OpenStudy (perl):

i mean , if you can't factor by grouping then you won't be able to factor that way

OpenStudy (jhannybean):

No not really, I just test and check between grouping, completing the square and this method, called the box method.

OpenStudy (alexandervonhumboldt2):

well one of the easiest methods is quadratic formula. 8a^2-18a-5=0 use quadratic formula: (18+-sqrt(324+160))/16=(18+-22)/16=2.5 and -0.25. then factored form is 8*(x-2.5)*(x+0.25) grouping method is also one of methods, just longer to do in this case.

OpenStudy (perl):

i'm refering to this comment "Generally works for trinomials you cannot factor by grouping, I guess."

OpenStudy (jhannybean):

Oh, hmm... I've tried factoring some trinomials before that I couldnt expand by grouping... and this method helped. Maybe I'm mistaken?

OpenStudy (perl):

I mean, your method does not work for trinomials you cannot factor by grouping. for example $$ \Large { 2x^2 + 2x -5 } $$ We can't factor by grouping or use your method

OpenStudy (jhannybean):

Let's see

Nnesha (nnesha):

well there are soooo many different method to factor it and if leading coefficient isn't one then i like this method to factor quadratic equation ;P|dw:1428776262182:dw| factor first and last term |dw:1428776303133:dw| cross multiply and if you get middle term then (4a+1)( 2a -5) factor of 8a^2-18-5

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