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OpenStudy (el_arrow):

need help with this series problem

OpenStudy (el_arrow):

\[\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}\frac{ 1*3*5.....*(2n-1) }{ 2*5*8....*(3n-1) }\]

OpenStudy (freckles):

Hey I was just looking at your past questions and noticed you left a reply I didn't reply to.

OpenStudy (el_arrow):

OpenStudy (freckles):

Are you still needing help on that one too?

OpenStudy (el_arrow):

yeah

OpenStudy (freckles):

ok first thing is this I guess what is the question here

OpenStudy (el_arrow):

but the thing i dont get on this is why it has (2n+1)/(3n+2)

OpenStudy (freckles):

why all of that simplified to that right?

OpenStudy (el_arrow):

yeah

OpenStudy (freckles):

\[\frac{(2n+1)! (3n-1)!}{(3n+2)!(2n-1)!}\] you started with this right?

OpenStudy (el_arrow):

no how you get that

OpenStudy (freckles):

\[x!=x(x-1)(x-2)(x-3)(x-4) \cdots (3)(2)(1)\]

OpenStudy (freckles):

other example \[(2x-1)!=(2x-1)(2x-2)(2x-3)(2x-4) \cdots (2x-x)(2x-[x-1]) ! \\ (2x-[x-1])!=(2x-x+1)!=(x+1)!=(x+1)(x)(x-1) \cdots (3)(2)(1)\]

OpenStudy (freckles):

anyways \[(2n+1)!=(2n+1)(2n)(2n-1)!\] \[(3n+2)!=(3n+2)(3n+1)(3n)(3n-1)!\]

OpenStudy (freckles):

you will get to cancel some factorials factors

OpenStudy (freckles):

\[\frac{(2n+1)! (3n-1)!}{(3n+2)!(2n-1)!} \\ \frac{(2n+1)(2n)(2n-1)! \cdot (3n-1)!}{(3n+2)(3n+1)(3n)(3n-1)! (2n-1)!}\]

OpenStudy (el_arrow):

but the problem doesnt have factorials

OpenStudy (freckles):

\[\frac{(2n+1)! (3n-1)!}{(3n+2)!(2n-1)!} \\ \frac{(2n+1)(2n)\cancel{(2n-1)!} \cdot \cancel{(3n-1)!}}{(3n+2)(3n+1)(3n)\cancel{(3n-1)! } \cancel{(2n-1)!} } \\ \frac{2}{3} \frac{2n+1}{(3n+2)(3n+1)}\]

OpenStudy (freckles):

which is a different looking then what they got

OpenStudy (freckles):

writing it as factorials helps me simplify it

OpenStudy (el_arrow):

i just noticed that he used ratio test and plugged in n+1

OpenStudy (el_arrow):

is the 2n part of the factorial as well?

OpenStudy (freckles):

(2n+1)!=(2n+1)(2n+0)(2n-1)! well if you are asking if is a factor of (2n+1)! yes and (3n+2)!=(3n+2)(3n+1)(3n+0)(3n-1)! so 3n is a factor of (3n+2)!

OpenStudy (el_arrow):

i think i got it now thanks for the help! :)

OpenStudy (freckles):

http://tutorial.math.lamar.edu/problems/calcii/alternatingseries.aspx I don't see number 4 here?

OpenStudy (el_arrow):

if you could answer the previous question please

OpenStudy (el_arrow):

you just gotta scroll down

OpenStudy (freckles):

oh sorry i'm an idiot

OpenStudy (el_arrow):

its okay

OpenStudy (freckles):

what about them finding f' do you understand that part?

OpenStudy (freckles):

do you know why they are finding f'?

OpenStudy (el_arrow):

yeah i get how to do that

OpenStudy (freckles):

and you know the why part too

OpenStudy (freckles):

f' tells us if the function is decreasing or increasing

OpenStudy (freckles):

f'=0 tells us where it does neither f' dne cancel also tell us that too depending on if the function is continuous there

OpenStudy (freckles):

or i guess say it does neither there :p

OpenStudy (el_arrow):

oh no i dont understand that part very much

OpenStudy (freckles):

f'=0 when the top=0

OpenStudy (freckles):

9-x^2=0 when x=?

OpenStudy (el_arrow):

x = 3

OpenStudy (freckles):

and ? or I should rather say or ?

OpenStudy (el_arrow):

it increases cause its positive?

OpenStudy (freckles):

no I was asking for another solution 9-x^2=0 when x=3 or x=-3 f' exist everywhere here since the denominator is never 0 but anyways f'=0 tells us the function is resting it is resting at x=3 or x=-3

OpenStudy (freckles):

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