If dy/dx = x * square root of (2x^2+1) , and y contains the point (2,4), then the y-intercept of the particular solution is A)0 B) -2/3 C)-1/3 D)-4/3 or E)-1?
\[d/x=x \sqrt{2x ^{2}+1}\]
There is the equation in an easier format!
do you know how to integrate?
Yeah I got the integral of the equation, I'm just not sure how to find the y-intercept!
can i see what you after you integrated
we can find the constant of integration by using the point (2,4) then we can find the y-intercept by putting x=0 and solving for y
\[1/6(2x^2+1)^{2/3}+c\]
I think you mean the power to be 3/2 right? anyways solve this for C first \[y=\frac{1}{6}(2x^2+1)^\frac{3}{2}+C \\ 4=\frac{1}{6}(2(2)^2+1)^\frac{3}{2}+C\]
Oops yeah I did!
I got c=1/2
oops c=-1/2
\[4=\frac{1}{6}(2(4)+1)^\frac{3}{2}+C \\ 4=\frac{1}{6}(8+1)^\frac{3}{2}+C \\ 4=\frac{1}{6}(9)^\frac{3}{2}+C \\ 4=\frac{1}{6}(3)^3+C \\ 4=\frac{1}{6}(27)+C\] yeah should be -1/2 :)
\[y=\frac{1}{6}(2x^2+1)^\frac{3}{2}-\frac{1}{2}\]
to find the y-intercept set x=0 and solve for y
I got -1/3! So the answer wold be C
Can I ask you one more question possibly?
sounds great
sure
Okay so the question is "Solve each initial value problem." The problem is: \[dy/dx=e ^{x-y}\] and f(0)=2
first you know law of exponents so you know x^(A+B) can be written as x^A times x^B
\[\frac{dy}{dx}=e^{x}e^{-y}\]
Yep!
no separate your variables
\[e^{y} dy=e^{x} dx\] integrate both sides
I'm not sure how you integrate with these
\[\int\limits_{}^{}e^u du=e^u+C\]
since d(e^u)/du=e^u
\[\int\limits_{}^{}e^y dy=\int\limits e^x dx \\ e^y+C_1=e^x+C_2 \\ e^y=e^x+C_2-C_1 \\ e^y=e^x+C\]
you can solve for y if you want to
you are given y(0)=2 this means replace x with 0 and y with 2 so you can solve for C
when i substituted for y and x I got c to be \[e ^{2}-1\]
sounds awesome so pluggin that back into our solution we have \[e^y=e^x+e^2-1\]
you can leave like this but sometimes it is preferred to solve for y
how would I solve for y?
do you know the inverse function of f(x)=e^x is g(x)=ln(x)
yep!
take ln( ) of both sides
\[e^y=e^x+e^2-1 \\ \ln(e^y)=\ln(e^x+e^2-1) \\ y \ln(e)=\ln(e^x+e^2-1) \\ y(1)=\ln(e^x+e^2-1) \\ y=\ln(e^x+e^2-1)\]
Great! Thank you so much! I also had a problem that was finding the initial value and the equation was \[dy/dx=xe ^{y}\] and f(0)=0 and I ended up with \[(x ^{2}*e ^{y})/2 - 1/2\] is that right?
why no equal sign anywhere?
the second equation is equal to y, just forgot to add it sorry
ok well this is another one you can do by seperation of variables \[\frac{dy}{dx}=xe^y \\ dy=x e^y dx \\ e^{-y} dy=x dx\] and then you integrate both sides
\[\int\limits_{}^{}e^{-y} dy=\int\limits x dx \\ -e^{-y}=\frac{x^2}{2}+C\]
use y(0)=0 to find your constant of integration
alright i did that so c=1
-1?
yes!
yep sounds good plug into our solution
\[-e^{-y}=\frac{x^2}{2}-1\] you can leave it as this or solve for y
you can solve for y in a very similar way we did before
your solutions will not always be easy or could be impossible to solve for y
is this one of those problems?
no it isn't this is is easy :p
you multiply -1 on both sides then take ln( ) of both sides
and one more step remains after
would it be \[y=\ln ((x ^{2}/2)+1)\]
close but still off
alright what else do I have to do?
\[-e^{-y}=\frac{x^2}{2}-1 \\ \text{ multiply -1 on both sides } \\ e^{-y}=1-\frac{x^2}{2}\] you cool with that step?
yep!
take ln( ) of both sides
\[\ln(e^{-y})=\ln(1-\frac{x^2}{2})\]
we can use power rule for logs on the left hand side
that is you can do this: \[-y \ln(e)=\ln(1-\frac{x^2}{2})\]
ln(e)=1 though
\[-y=\ln(1-\frac{x^2}{2})\] the last step that remains is multiplying both sides by -1
\[y=- \ln(1-\frac{x^2}{2})\]
there is something else you can do but we don't have to go too crazy
unless you were trying to match an answer to a choice you had or something
No I'm not matching it to a choice, what else can we do?
you can use power rule again
\[y=- \ln(\frac{2-x^2}{2}) \\ y=\ln((\frac{2-x^2}{2})^{-1}) \\ y=\ln(\frac{2}{2-x^2})\]
I think that looks pretty but you could also use the quotient rule and write it like this \[y=\ln(2)-\ln(2-x^2)\]
That does look better!
Great! Thank you so much for all of your help!!
np :)
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