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OpenStudy (mayankdevnani):

Another Limit question

OpenStudy (mayankdevnani):

\[\large \bf \lim_{x \rightarrow \infty} \cos(\sqrt{x+1})-\cos(\sqrt{x})\]

OpenStudy (perl):

infinity - infinity is indeterminate

OpenStudy (mayankdevnani):

yup ! then we can convert it into infinity/infinity form !

OpenStudy (freckles):

well I know the following: \[-1 \le \cos(\sqrt{x+1})\le 1 \\ -1 \le \cos(\sqrt{x}) \le 1 \\ \text{ so it should be that } \\-2 \le \cos(\sqrt{x+1})-\cos(\sqrt{x}) \le 2 \] well it isn't exactly infinity-infinity both functions oscillate between -1 and 1

OpenStudy (mayankdevnani):

how did you get [-2,2] ?

OpenStudy (freckles):

played with numbers in the inequalities above I was like the max of cos(sqrt(x+1)) is 1 and the max of cos(sqrt(x)) is 1 so the max of cos(sqrt(x+1))+cos(sqrt(x)) could be (1+1)=2 and then the same thing with the min values for each

OpenStudy (mayankdevnani):

but you subtract 2 equations ! and you actually add them

OpenStudy (freckles):

or I also I mean to put a minus there cos(sqrt(x+1))-cos(sqrt(x) could be (1+1)=2 you know since -cos(sqrt(x)) could be 1

OpenStudy (freckles):

-cos(sqrt(x)) is actually 1 when x=pi^2

OpenStudy (freckles):

or that is one value anyways

OpenStudy (mayankdevnani):

ok. so how can we solve limit ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OMG NOOOO IT'S NOT INDETERMINATE

OpenStudy (anonymous):

omfg omfg omfg omfg SQUEEZE THEORUM

OpenStudy (anonymous):

NO GUYS WTF ARE YOU GUYS DOING

OpenStudy (anonymous):

SQUEEZE THEORUM

OpenStudy (mayankdevnani):

i don't know about this theorem?

OpenStudy (mayankdevnani):

i am a LEARNER !

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oh Okay, good I can teach it to you

OpenStudy (misty1212):

\[\infty-\infty\]? seems unlikely

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Misty I got this haha, let me explain squeeze to her

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So basically what's the range for cosx

OpenStudy (mayankdevnani):

her ? i am a boy

OpenStudy (misty1212):

it doesn't have a squeeze to it darling q

OpenStudy (mayankdevnani):

lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes it does....

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Any trig function taken to limit as x-->infinity has to be squeezed

OpenStudy (perl):

try this substitution x = tan^2(y)

OpenStudy (misty1212):

lol sure, i like being squeezed too, but that doesn't mean i have to be squeezed

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Mayank.. If you want to listen to what these guys are incorrectly telling you go for it. I can help you otherwise.

OpenStudy (misty1212):

it does just what @freckles said, goes between -2 and 2 no limit just upper and lower bounds

OpenStudy (mayankdevnani):

can we apply cos C - cos D ?

OpenStudy (misty1212):

only if you want to make it look uglier

OpenStudy (mayankdevnani):

can we rationalize it ?

OpenStudy (perl):

what formula is that

OpenStudy (freckles):

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=limit%28-2*sin%28%28sqrt%28x%2B1%29%2Bsqrt%28x%29%29%2F2%29*sin%28%28sqrt%28x%2B1%29-sqrt%28x%29%29%2F2%29%2Cx%3Dinfty%29 weird thing is wolfram says the limit exists and is 0 if we rewrite it like that

OpenStudy (freckles):

I did write it correctly right?

OpenStudy (mayankdevnani):

cos C - cos D = 2 sin (C+D/2) sin ( D-C/2)

OpenStudy (mayankdevnani):

can we rationalize it guys ?

OpenStudy (perl):

you have a mistake in your formula, it should be this http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=+cos%28sqrt%28x%2B1%29%29+-+cos%28sqrt%28x%29%29

OpenStudy (mayankdevnani):

where is mistake in my formula ?

OpenStudy (freckles):

sin(x) is an odd function

OpenStudy (mayankdevnani):

yup !

OpenStudy (freckles):

sin(-x)=-sin(x)

OpenStudy (mayankdevnani):

we understood !

OpenStudy (perl):

sorry, that seems to work

OpenStudy (freckles):

I don't get why there are answers that are contradicting each other

OpenStudy (freckles):

I still think the limit oscillates between -2 and 2

OpenStudy (perl):

we can always plug in large numbers

OpenStudy (perl):

yes it converges to zero

OpenStudy (perl):

numerically

OpenStudy (mayankdevnani):

I GOT MY ANSWER !

OpenStudy (mayankdevnani):

hurray !!!

OpenStudy (perl):

you can rationalize that sine expression inside

OpenStudy (mayankdevnani):

nope !

OpenStudy (mayankdevnani):

can i post my solution ? ( if you wants)

OpenStudy (perl):

sure

OpenStudy (mayankdevnani):

first apply cos C - cos D

OpenStudy (perl):

ok

OpenStudy (mayankdevnani):

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