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OpenStudy (abmon98):

Integration question

OpenStudy (abmon98):

OpenStudy (abmon98):

x=acos3t dx/dt=-3asin3t y=asint dy/dt=acost dy/dx=dy/dt*dt/dx=acost/-3asin3t=cost/-3sin3t y-asint=cost/-3sin3t(x-acos3t) at t=pi/6 y-1/2a=-(3)^1/2/6(x)

OpenStudy (abmon98):

in order to calculate the area of triangle we need to let y=0 and figure out the base of triangle it turned out to be equal to x=(3)^1/2/4. That's what i have managed to do till now.

OpenStudy (amistre64):

r' = tangent vector (0, a/2) is the anchor point of (-3a, a sqrt(3)/2 ) so the line y=-x sqrt(3)/2 + a/2 defines our triangle right?

OpenStudy (abmon98):

how did you find -3a,a sqrt(3)/2

OpenStudy (amistre64):

set t=pi/6 and plug it into the dx/dt and dy/dt

OpenStudy (abmon98):

okay got it!

OpenStudy (abmon98):

but why are we doing all of this, why cant we try to find the equation of curve and integrate it with limits a and b

OpenStudy (abmon98):

sorry a and 0.

OpenStudy (amistre64):

we can, i was just working out part a

OpenStudy (abmon98):

i have no problems with part a) i showed my work above.

OpenStudy (amistre64):

i was just catching up then

OpenStudy (amistre64):

if our work agrees then we are on the right track hopefully

OpenStudy (amistre64):

can we solve t in terms of x; and input into y? dunno if that simplifies anything but its a thought i have in my head

OpenStudy (amistre64):

t = 3 arccos(x/a) y = a sin(3 arccos(x/a)) prolly not a very pretty integration is it can we convert to polar?

OpenStudy (abmon98):

nope, would be too much work.

OpenStudy (abmon98):

dy/dx=cost/-3sin3t y-y1=m(x-x1)) y-asint=cost/-3sint(x-acos3t)

OpenStudy (amistre64):

trying to recall parametric integration; dotproduct seems useful

OpenStudy (amistre64):

\[A=\int_{0}^{pi/6}y\frac{dx}{dt}dt\] is what im seeing in my notes

OpenStudy (amistre64):

-3a^2 sin(t) sin(3t) and an identity for the product of sines is: 1/2 (sin(3t+t) + sin(3t-t)) dbl chk sin sin is from cosines .. -cos(3t+t) = -cos(3t)cos(t) + sin(3t)sin(t) cos(3t-t) = cos(3t)cos(t) + sin(3t)sin(t) ----------------------------------- 1/2(cos(2t) - cos(4t)) = sin(3t)sin(t)

OpenStudy (amistre64):

i believe that should work it real nice ....

OpenStudy (abmon98):

asint(-3asin3t) -3a^2sin3t^2 i am stuck in integration whats above

OpenStudy (amistre64):

sin(t) sin(3t) is NOT sin(3t^2)

OpenStudy (amistre64):

which is why i eventually worked the cosine rule out to show that this product is equal to what i posted

OpenStudy (amistre64):

sin(3t)sin(t) = 1/2 (cos(2t) - cos(4t))

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