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OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

Solve 2ty'+y=1

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

Here4 is what I got so far: \[2ty'=1-y\\y'=\frac{1-y}{2t}\\\frac{dy}{1-y}=\frac{dt}{2t}\] Can I do that? There is no t doesn't =0 stipulation

OpenStudy (amorfide):

where did you get 1-y

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

sorry , mistyped original fixed now

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

I mean, I can do it from there, I'm just wondering if the dividing by 2t is legal if t can =0

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

it's just separation of variables if I can divide by t. So for integrating factor it would beeee....h/o (I'm not so great with them so I need a minute)

OpenStudy (amorfide):

would it not just be

OpenStudy (perl):

yes you can divide by 2t, thats fine

OpenStudy (amorfide):

divide by 2

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

oh, then I'm good doing separation of variables?

OpenStudy (perl):

-ln|1-y| = 1/2 ln |t| + c

OpenStudy (amorfide):

because y' is in terms of t so you have tdy/dt= (1-y)/2

OpenStudy (amorfide):

oh yeah i get it my bad

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

yea, I know, I just wanted to make sure I could divide by t like I need to

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

can you show me the integrating factor way @perl ? Is the integrating factor \(e^{-t^2}\)?

OpenStudy (perl):

sure $$\Large\rm { 2ty' + y = 1 \\y' + \frac{1}{2t}y = \frac{1}{2t} \\ integrating ~ factor ~ e^{ \int \frac{1}{2t}} } $$

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

wait, I thought the integrating factor was on p(t)?

OpenStudy (perl):

yes p(t) = 1/(2t)

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

but isn't p(t) the coefficient on the y' term? Then q(t) the coefficient on the y term?

OpenStudy (perl):

first step is to divide through by the coefficeint of y '

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

oh, I thought that was only for second order

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

ohhhkkkk

OpenStudy (perl):

integrating factor is used on : $$ \Large \frac{dy}{dt} + p(t) y = g(t) $$

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

...Ohk, now I get it.

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

Thank you!!

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

You can stop there, btw my final answer is \(y=1-c_1t^{-1/2}\) do you agree?

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

ah absolute value on that t

OpenStudy (perl):

yes thats correct, but you don't need to put a negative in front of c1

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

ok thanks!!!

OpenStudy (perl):

not that its wrong, but you could have a plus as well :) since its a constant it will absorb sign

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

yea, I did that with the e^-c I just didn't mind the - since y(1)=0 and I'd need a negative anyways

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

thanks again Perl!!!

OpenStudy (perl):

your welcome

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