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OpenStudy (diamondboy):

solve number 23

OpenStudy (diamondboy):

OpenStudy (diamondboy):

@freckles

OpenStudy (freckles):

hey!

OpenStudy (freckles):

so we want to solve sin(x)=0.637 there are two quadrants in the first rotation that is the interval [0,2pi] for which sin(x) is positive that is in the 1st and 2nd quadrant so you will have two answers to sin(x)=0.637

OpenStudy (diamondboy):

Hi

OpenStudy (diamondboy):

ok

OpenStudy (diamondboy):

so are they 3pi/2 and pi/2?

OpenStudy (freckles):

well 0.637 isn't a pretty number you can find on the unit circle \[x=\arcsin(0.637) \text{ gives one solution }\] now let's look at solving an example problem.... say we want to solve sin(x)=1/2 we can first solutions in first and second quadrant we notice by looking at the unit circle we have x=pi/6 or x=5pi/6 let's look at at pi/6 and determine how we can get 5pi/6 well if you notice if you follow the line that is created by theta=5pi/6 we see we can also call that line theta=-pi/6 so if we change x=pi/6 to x=-pi/6+pi we will get out other solution so lets work backwards and see what that show look like so we know doing arcsin() of both sides of sin(x)=1/2 gives us the solution x=arcsin(1/2) or x=pi/6 so wherver I see pi/6 I'm going to write arcsin(1/2) so we had the solution x=-pi/6+pi so I'm going to write that as x=-arcsin(1/2)+pi subtract pi on both sides x-pi=-arcsin(1/2) multiply both sides by -1 pi-x=arcsin(1/2) so sin( ) of both sides gives sin(pi-x)=1/2

OpenStudy (freckles):

So in your case you have the following two equations to solve: \[\sin(x)=0.637 \text{ or } \sin(\pi-x)=0.637\]

OpenStudy (freckles):

so what I'm saying is you will get both of your solutions by solving or evaluating the following: \[x=\arcsin(0.637) \text{ or } \pi-x=\arcsin(0.637)\]

OpenStudy (diamondboy):

ok

OpenStudy (diamondboy):

I got 2.451 for the second one

OpenStudy (diamondboy):

0.691 for the first one

OpenStudy (diamondboy):

so dats my answer?

OpenStudy (freckles):

that is what I have as well

OpenStudy (diamondboy):

k

OpenStudy (diamondboy):

well it was wrong

OpenStudy (diamondboy):

OpenStudy (freckles):

checking answers: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=sin%282.451%29 http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=sin%280.691%29 approximations look great

OpenStudy (diamondboy):

well I don't knw why it was marked wrong

OpenStudy (diamondboy):

anyways thank u for trying I would just ask my instructor tomorrow

OpenStudy (diamondboy):

just curious are u in college?

OpenStudy (freckles):

not anymoer

OpenStudy (diamondboy):

ok cool

OpenStudy (diamondboy):

at least u are free frm assignments, instructors e.t.c

OpenStudy (freckles):

I wonder if there is like a rounding thing

OpenStudy (freckles):

you know I know you round to 3 decimal places but I wonder if the issue occurred in the rounding somewherw

OpenStudy (diamondboy):

mayb

OpenStudy (help_people):

hi i really hat to ask this but may you help me after?

OpenStudy (diamondboy):

but d rounding was right

OpenStudy (freckles):

like arcsin(0.637) gives 0.6906002396966 blah blah rounded to 3 decimal places gives 0.691 as you said I wonder if we also should round pi too 3 decimal places before using it pi is approx 3.142 so we have \[\sin(\pi-x)=0.637 \\ 3.142-x=\arcsin(0.637) \\ 3.142-x=0.691 \\ -x=0.691-3.142 \\ x=3.142-0.691=2.451\] hmm so doing 3 digit rounding all the way throughout isn't the problem

OpenStudy (diamondboy):

yea

OpenStudy (freckles):

I wonder if the software finds the 0 before the decimal place significant like instead of writing .691 write 0.691 so you would write 0.691 and 2.451 as the solutions

OpenStudy (freckles):

oh you already have in your solution

OpenStudy (diamondboy):

yes

OpenStudy (freckles):

yep I don't know but those are approximate the right solutions as we seen when we checked them and I assume they wanted us to find the solutions in the interval [0,pi] since it said [0,pi]

OpenStudy (diamondboy):

yep

OpenStudy (freckles):

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=solve+sin%28x%29%3D0.637+on+%5B0%2C3.14%5D look wolfram agrees with us

OpenStudy (freckles):

I will stop trying to argue for my answer now :p

OpenStudy (diamondboy):

well its ok

OpenStudy (freckles):

hey @diamondboy how many tries do you get?

OpenStudy (freckles):

if you get another try this will probably not work but you can try 0.69 and 2.45

OpenStudy (diamondboy):

ok

OpenStudy (diamondboy):

I only have 5 tries and dat was d last one

OpenStudy (freckles):

ok well much sure you get your points back and argue with your teacher about it :p

OpenStudy (freckles):

make sure*

OpenStudy (diamondboy):

:) ok maybe not argue but wuld talk to her abt it

OpenStudy (freckles):

lol don't mean argue argue politely defend your solution

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