can somebody help explain how to evaluate for this logarithm? 10^(log12-log3)
i got up to 10^(log4) and i got stuck. i do not know what to do next?
@fallenangelorchid
>.< I'm better with English, history, and writing sorry.
@phi am i forgetting a property about logarithms? i can't think of anything to do with this
the way you "undo" logs is make them the exponent of their base assuming log 3 means log base 10 (we is probably true) then \[ 10^{\log 3} = 3\]
why is it equal to 3?
you should try to remember this rule 10 * 100 = 1000 or , using exponents \[ 10^2 \cdot 10^2= 10^3 \] to remember you add the exponents
yeah, i understand that. makes sense
***why is it 3*** that was an example. \[ 10^{\log (\text{stuff})} = stuff\]
oh i didn't know that. so it's a rule for when logarithms are found in the exponent of a base?
so with \[ 10^{\log12-\log3} \] use the first rule (backwards) to write it as \[ 10^{\log12} \cdot 10^{-\log3} \]
in other words we are using \[ 10^{\log12} \cdot 10^{-\log3} = 10^{\log12 + (-\log3)} \]
which is the same rule as \[10^1 \cdot 10^2= 10^3 \] (I see I have a typo up above) but with more complicated things than 1 and 2 for the exponent
ok im following well
now what is \[ 10^{\log12} \] ? (see the stuff rule)
12
oh cause you add the exponents if they ahve same base right?
so we have \[ 10^{\log12-\log3} = 10^{\log12} \cdot 10^{-\log3} \\ = 12 \cdot 10^{-\log3} \] * add the exponents if they ahve same base right?** yes, exactly
one more rule \[ a^{-b} = \frac{1}{a^b} \] use that to rewrite \[ 10^{-\log3} \]
wouldn't it be 10^9 if you add exponents
if it was \(10^{12} \cdot 10^{-3} \), but it isn't
how to add the logs and you got 12?
don't lose the bubble... think of log(12) as a number (it is a number, and your calculator will give you a decimal value for it) using the add exponent rule (in reverse) we can say \[ 10^{\log12-\log3} = 10^{\log12} \cdot 10^{-\log3} \\ = 12 \cdot 10^{-\log3} \] now use this rule a^{-b} = \frac{1}{a^b} to rewrite the second term
now use this rule\[ a^{-b} = \frac{1}{a^b} \]to rewrite the second term
oh cause 10^(log12) = 12 and 10^(-log3) which is 1/(10^(log3) so 12*(1/3)?
yes
so 4 is the value? !
yes
wow thank you. my teacher never taught me the 'stuff' rule apparently
i would fan you again if i could!! xD
It's not standard usage but it sticks in my head better.
one more thing. i have a question on logarithms in general. can i ask you in another?
ok
thanks!
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