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OpenStudy (anonymous):

find critical point and classify

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\frac{ dx }{ dt }=x+y+7\] \[\frac{ dy }{ dt }=3x-y-5\]

OpenStudy (freckles):

so you set both of these equal to 0 I suppose?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I tried that, but it's not correct, according to the answer in my book

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh wait,

OpenStudy (freckles):

so hmm we have x+y=-7 3x-y=5 ------ add equations: 4x=-2 you can solve that for x

OpenStudy (anonymous):

that is what I did, x=-.5

OpenStudy (freckles):

and then get y by solving -.5+y=-7 for y

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so y=-6.5

OpenStudy (anonymous):

that is not what my book says though, but that is how I solved it

OpenStudy (freckles):

(-1/2,-13/2)

OpenStudy (freckles):

what does the book say?

OpenStudy (freckles):

that should be right

OpenStudy (anonymous):

(3,4)

OpenStudy (freckles):

that has to be a mistake I'm sure you solve the system dx/dt=0 and dy/dt=0 to find the critical points

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok, thank you

OpenStudy (freckles):

http://users.etown.edu/h/hughesjr/ma321/notes/c6s1.html here is something to back by up

OpenStudy (freckles):

me up*

OpenStudy (freckles):

A critical point of such a system is a point (a,b) such that F(a,b)=G(a,b)=0. x+y+7 = -1/2+-13/2+7=-14/2+7=-7+7=0 and 3x-y-5 = 3(-1/2)--13/2-5 = -3/2+13/2-5 = 10/2-5 = 5-5 =0 just to prove it is a critical point :p

OpenStudy (anonymous):

understood, I appreciate the supporting details :p

OpenStudy (freckles):

I know it doesn't make you feel much better since the book still says the critical points to the system you were given was (3,4)

OpenStudy (freckles):

it always feels weird accepting answers that the book doesn't seem to agree with

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the book has been wrong before, so its possible again..lol

OpenStudy (freckles):

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=critical+points+dx%2Fdt%3Dx%2By%2B7+and+dy%2Fdt%3D3x-y-5 there are some 3's and 4's occurring in the differentiation equations solutions here

OpenStudy (freckles):

and also along with our critical point

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thank you, we agree so im confident the book is wrong

OpenStudy (freckles):

I'm confident the book is wrong too :)

OpenStudy (freckles):

can i say one more annoying thing

OpenStudy (freckles):

I think I know what went wrong

OpenStudy (freckles):

with the book's solution

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok, im listening..lol

OpenStudy (freckles):

\[\frac{dx}{dt}=x+y-7 \\ \frac{dy}{dt}=3x-y-5 \] so this would mean x+y=7 3x-y=5 -------add equations: 4x=12 x=3 and so y=4 (3,4) would be a critical point to \[\frac{dx}{dt}=x+y-7 \\ \frac{dy}{dt}=3x-y-5 \]

OpenStudy (freckles):

this problem looks a lot similar to our problem \[\frac{dx}{dt}=x+y+7 \\ \frac{dy}{dt}=3x-y-5\]

OpenStudy (freckles):

I think there was just a small type-o in the problem and that is how it got what it got

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ahhhh

OpenStudy (freckles):

I think that seems very possible

OpenStudy (freckles):

anyways have fun :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

seems very possible, thanks for your help and insight

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