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OpenStudy (anonymous):

hypothesis testing?? Someone help me

OpenStudy (amistre64):

might need some more information ....

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hold on

OpenStudy (amistre64):

at my age, time is a luxury ...

iYuko (iyuko):

LolxD

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (amistre64):

this is more readable ... the chinese method is not the standard

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Okay...

OpenStudy (amistre64):

start with stating your null and alternate hypothesis ... whats your efforts?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

in order to run tests, we have to define what it is we are testing, and what constitutes acceptance/rejection.

OpenStudy (rational):

*

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Null hypothesis: M=U

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Sample mean= population mean

OpenStudy (amistre64):

is the mean of the last 9 games higher than the mean of the season is our question lets frame the null with an equality: Ho: mean <= 83 games won the alternative hypothesis is simply the rest of it: Ha: mean > 83

OpenStudy (amistre64):

im not sportsy so my interpretation of the question may be faulty lol ... but this is the basis of our testing.

OpenStudy (amistre64):

agreed so far?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

OpenStudy (amistre64):

now, in order to test this stuff, we need to know the means ... what is our sample mean?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

83

OpenStudy (amistre64):

our sample mean is not 83 sum of the data, divided by how many datapoints there are. its close to 83 ... but i did not get 83 for the sample mean

OpenStudy (anonymous):

84

OpenStudy (amistre64):

9 seasons, # of wins: 89, 95, 95, 96, 86, 9, 98, 95, 93 mean is 84, good now tell me how you would propose we use this information, ill correct you if need be.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

we would use the z test

OpenStudy (amistre64):

ok, do you know why we would use z and not t? or should we use t instead?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Because we use the z test when we have the population standard deviation

OpenStudy (amistre64):

sounds fair enough :) and we want two z scores, a critical value, and the value of the test statistic. the critical value establishes a boundary for the rejection/acceptance regions; and the actual value of the test statistic tells us which side of the boundary we are on. whats our critical value? (itll be associated with the significance level)

OpenStudy (amistre64):

do you work this with p-value or critical value? either way is sufficient

OpenStudy (anonymous):

mostly the p-value

OpenStudy (amistre64):

ok, then with p-value we are comparing the size of alpha with the probability value of the test statistic. i always found it simpler to compare the z scores and not their associated probabilities. why look up what the z relates to when its simple enough to compare zs eh

OpenStudy (amistre64):

critical z score would be 1.645 if the z for the test stat is higher then this then we know we are "greater than" and in our rejection region. calculate the test stat for me. how would you work it? (formula)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

wait don't we have to do the z test first before doing the p value

OpenStudy (amistre64):

we have to find the related z score yes

OpenStudy (amistre64):

since alpha = .05 ... and is right tailed (Ha > 83) our left tail area is .9500, which relates to a critical z score of 1.645 ... but this information is pointless if comparing the p-value. we still need the test stats z value

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i don't know how to do the z test. I always mix the numbers up

OpenStudy (amistre64):

z = (sample mean) - (hypot mean) -------------------------- (pop sd) / sqrt(sample size)

OpenStudy (amistre64):

84-83 = 1 sqrt(9)/16 = 3/16

OpenStudy (amistre64):

1/(a/b) = b/a if that confused you

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so N=9

OpenStudy (amistre64):

yes, we have a sample of the last 9 seasons that we took the mean of

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what about the 110? Where does that fall into

OpenStudy (amistre64):

extra information that does noting for us id assume

OpenStudy (amistre64):

the population size is 110 ... has nothing to do with the hypothesis testing. at least not in any of the courses i took.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay

OpenStudy (anonymous):

as an answer i got 0.188

OpenStudy (amistre64):

me too if we were comparing z scores rejection region ------------|-------------------------> 0.188 1.645 we are clearly not in the rejection region; and your p-value will be bigger then .05

OpenStudy (anonymous):

We retain the null hypothesis

OpenStudy (amistre64):

we fail to reject it is what i always refered to it as. but yeah

OpenStudy (amistre64):

P(z>3/16) = .4256 since alpha = .0500 you see how the p-value is working out

OpenStudy (anonymous):

how did you got the p-value? And this question is a Type 2 error

OpenStudy (amistre64):

P(z>3/16) of course

OpenStudy (amistre64):

z = 3/16 = 0.1875 normalCDF(0.1875, 9999, 0, 1) is one method or looking up a table to find row -0.1 and col 0.08 if its left tailed etc etc ....

OpenStudy (amistre64):

how would you find the area related to the right side of z=0.1875 ?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

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