C (graphite)+O2(g) --> CO2(g) delta H rxn = -393.5 kJ/mol H2(g)+1/2O2(g) --> H2O(l) delta H rxn = -285.8 kJ/mol 2C2H6 (g) +7O2(g) --> 4CO2(g) +6H2O (l) delta H rxn =-3119.6 kJ/mol calculate the enthalpy change for the reaction below: 2C (graphite) +3H2(g) --> C2H6(g)
This question is asking for the formation energy First off you know the enthalpy of formation for CO2 and H2O it is given by the first two reactions. Secondly you know the reaction enthalpy for the break down of 2C2H6 to CO2 and H2O 1. flip the reaction for C2H6 (you want formation energy) remember to change the enthalpies sign whenever you flip a reaction) 2. Notice it is in terms of 2 moles of C2H6 so simply divide all the constants in the equation by 2 as well as the enthalpy by 2 3. Since you know formation enthalpies for H2O, and CO2 you can simply apply hesses law to solve for formation of C2H6 This goes over hesses law http://chemwiki.ucdavis.edu/Physical_Chemistry/Thermodynamics/State_Functions/Enthalpy/Standard_Enthalpy_Of_Formation
for step number 2 I am talking about the 3rd chemical reaction equation
also note that O2 has an enthalpy of formation equal to 0 because it is in standard state
So 393.5 + -285.8 +-1559.8?
You have delta E_reaction from the 3rd equation you have formation enthalpies for H2O and CO2 You know formation enthalpy of O2 is 0 So you need to set up Hess equation to solve for C2H6
Look at this example and I think you will see how to solve it
H subscript f is just enthalpies of formation you can check your answer from a table of enthalpy formations I assume
So I take 2(-393.5)-3(-285.8)+1(-3119.6)
Actually just go over what I wrote
you skipped steps
I think I'm getting myself confused
2C2H6 (g) +7O2(g) --> 4CO2(g) +6H2O (l) delta H rxn =-3119.6 kJ/mol You want formation enthalpy so you need to write it in terms of CO2 and H2O as reactants -RULE WHEN FLIPPING REACTIONS ENTHALPY CHANGES SIGNS So Flip it 4CO2(g) +6H2O -> 7O2(g) + 2C2H6 (g) delta H rxn =3119.6 kJ/mol Now you need 1 moles of C2H6 you have 2 moles of C2H6 in your reaction divide everything by 2!!! 2CO2(g) +3H2O -> 7/2 O2(g) + C2H6 (g) delta H rxn = (3119.6/2) kJ/mol
Now you need to set up the equation to solve specifically for C2H6 formation, you should be able to do this step without my help just look at the example question and look how they set their problem up
How do you know which numbers go with which compound or element? For example the NO was 90.25 in the example you gave
Okay when I'm setting up the equation do I just write what doesn't cancel or am I thinking of something completely different?
So the equation basically says Reaction enthalpy = SUM OF products reaction enthalpy - (SUM OF reactants reaction enthalpy) So for example if you had the reaction Br2 + C3H6 -> C3H6Br2 you knew formation of Br2 is 0 (standard state) C3H6 we will just say has a enthalpy of formation of -500kJ (Not really) C3H6Br2 has formation enthalpy of -700kJ (Not really) You would set up the equation as reaction enthalpy Reaction Enthalpy = (-700kJ)*1 - [(-500)*1 + (-700kJ)*1 you could then solve for reaction enthalpy IN your case you know the reaction enthalpy you dont know the formation of C2H6
So would it be solved differently then?
yes
not exactly the same just plug in everthing you know into the formula and solve for what you dont know which is the formation enthalpy of C2H6
That is what is being asked in this question because, this reaction: 2C (graphite) +3H2(g) --> C2H6(g) uses two elements in standard states and whenever you see something like this you are getting enthalpy of formation of whatever isnt in its standard state
By doing the 2(-393.5)-3(-285.8)+1(-3119.6) is that what I'm plugging the numbers into?
Because you use the coefficients of the equation and plug in the given kJ/mol right?
the -3119.6 is your reaction enthalpy (which is incorrect read what I wrote) not your formation enthalpy for C2H6 which is what you need to solve for.
So just 2(-393.5)-3(-285.8)
If so I got 71.4
no
YOu need to include all reactants and all products in the equation
The only difference between the example I posted and your question is that you know the reaction enthalpy and you dont know one of the enthalpies of formation
dont get frustrated you can get this and once you do you will be like damn so easy
I'm more exhausted than frustrated.
Okay so delta H are the reaction enthalpy?
And I don't know C2H6
the third reaction gives its reaction enthalpy, you know the H2O and CO2 formation enthalpies from reaction 1 and 2 (It is just their reaction enthalpies)
So that isn't the numbers by the delta H?
huh?
What is a reaction enthalpy?
It is the amount of energy or heat absorbed or produced by a reaction since the reactants aren't in standard state the reaction enthalpy is not equal to the the formation enthalpy for C2H6
So is that what the -285.8 and -393.5 kJ/mol is?
Oh! I see now
I would take the -393.5 by 2 =-787 kJ then -285.8 by 3=-857.4 kJ
and the third one would be divided by 2 since it got flipped
After plugging those into the formula I got -84.6 kJ
you change sign when flipping a reaction you divide by 2 to make sure its just 1 mole of C2H6
Forgot to mention that. Sorry
Thank you for your help and patience!
I'm going to go pass out now
(3119.6/2) =[x*1] - [-285.8*6 + -393.5*4] solve for x and you have your answer I hope you understand how I got this
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