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OpenStudy (anonymous):

When is the total mechanical energy not necessarily conserved? A. when friction is present B. when the mechanical energy is entirely potential energy C. when the mechanical energy is entirely kinetic energy D. Total mechanical energy is always conserved in any closed system. ***Not sure!! Please explain? Thank you:)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so it would be either choice b or c? :/

OpenStudy (aaronq):

i'm not sure to be honest

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ohh okay, thanks though!!

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

I think when we have a closed system, since by definition, a closed system is a system which can not change energy with other system

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

systems*

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

here we have to take in account the definition of closed system

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ohh so it would be choice D? because they cannot change enemies within each other? :/

OpenStudy (amistre64):

NOT necessarily conserved ^^^^

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sorry *energies hahhaa

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@amistre64 what do you mean by that? so it wouldn't be a closed system? :/

OpenStudy (amistre64):

what is the definition of mechanical energy?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the ability to do work?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

thats not the definition i get

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

hint: empirically, when there are friction forces, we have the subsequent condition: KE=PE What we have to do is to establish if those friction forces belong or don't belong to our system

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ohh i'm not sure then @amistre64 is it potential energy + kinetic energy? :/ and @Michele_Laino so they are interchangeable ?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

Me = PE + KE PE and KE are conservative energies in a closed system 3 of these define conservation, one does not.

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

If we consider the gravitational field, which is a conservative field, then the sum: kinetic energy+potential energy of a body has to remain constant

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and so the one that does not would be my solution? :O

OpenStudy (amistre64):

what eats at energy? what makes energy go away (be not conserved) ? its asking for which one is not necessarily conserved, yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

work makes energy go away? because it is being used?

OpenStudy (amistre64):

is work one of your options?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

would it be choice B then ? :/

OpenStudy (amistre64):

when is PE not conserved?

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

In general friction forces are viewed, as the weight force, like external forces acting on a defined system. The reason is simply: if we include the friction forces into our system, then we have to consider that part of mechanical energy will leave our system as heat

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ohh when friction is present? so choice A would be the solution? :O

OpenStudy (amistre64):

friction destroys, when things are destroyed they are not kept the same ... the are not conserved.

OpenStudy (amistre64):

not saying its right, just saying thats what id go for

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

If we include friction forces into our system, then our system will be not a conservative system

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ohh okay, so then my answer is that total mechanical energy is not necessarily conserved when friction is present? :O

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

that's right!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yay!! Thank you both @Michele_Laino @amistre64 :)

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

Thank you! :)

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