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OpenStudy (math2400):

Riemann sum problem..left and right. Posting

OpenStudy (math2400):

if someone could walk me through this i'd appreciate it. I know that you would take the width times the left endpoints' y values are at each x...but every time I calculate it I don't get the right answer >< i used these x for the left: 3, 3.5, 4, 4.5, 5.5, 6, 6.5 and then got the y values and multiplied those by (1/2) because that is the width.

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

what y values did you get?

OpenStudy (math2400):

umm well i plugged them into my calcator and melted by (1/2) right away so those values were as follows: 2.5 + 3.15 + 3.6 + 4.05 + 4.5 + 4.95 + 5.4 + 5.85

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok im hear it is @lsherron

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

this is what geogebra produces

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lo siento déjame etiquetar a alguien que sé paseíto puede ayudarle.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

De acuerdo?

OpenStudy (math2400):

no lo siento no hablo mucho español. Pero gracias

OpenStudy (math2400):

ok and then i multiply those values by 1/2? right?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

add them up, then multiply by 1/2

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

you can multiply them all by 1/2, then add, but it's easier to add then multiply in my opinion

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@dan815 @Preetha

OpenStudy (math2400):

got it!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thay will help you i can count on it

OpenStudy (math2400):

so for the next one we use the right side so all the values from 3.5 to 7?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

correct

OpenStudy (math2400):

ok but do u understand the last part

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

look at part 1 what do you notice about the left rectangles from x = 3 to x = 5 ?

OpenStudy (math2400):

sorry my laptop died on me :( um idk tho...is it just the way that the rectangles are placed?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

all of the left endpoint rectangles are under the curve from x = 3 to x = 5, no?

OpenStudy (math2400):

yes

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

so the left endpoint riemann sum is an under approximation of the actual integral from 3 to 5

OpenStudy (math2400):

oh i mean the last picture (part 3)

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

yeah I'm referring to that

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

in contrast the right endpoint rectangles are above the curve, so it's an over approximation

OpenStudy (math2400):

ok so i write that? I'm confused about the layout haha

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

meaning \[\Large L_{4} \le \int_{3}^{5} f(x) dx \le R_{4}\] L4 means "left endpoint rectangles, n = 4" R4 means "right endpoint rectangles, n = 4" the rectangles are both from a = 3 to b = 5

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

\[\Large R_{4} \le \int_{5}^{7} f(x) dx \le L_{4}\] the rectangles are both from a = 5 to b = 7

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

oh wait, we have actual numbers to work with. I'm not thinking lol

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

For a = 3 to b = 5, what is the value of L4?

OpenStudy (math2400):

lol ok sorry what is L4

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

L4 is the left endpoint rectangles (4 of them) areas added up in this case, a = 3 and b = 5 so the left most edge is at 3, the right most edge is at 5

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

so it's like part 1 but we don't go from 3 to 7 we go from 3 to 5

OpenStudy (math2400):

ohhh ok.. lol so how would i input answers?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

add up the y values from x = 3 to x = 4.5 then multiply by 1/2

OpenStudy (math2400):

ok then i put that value on the right side of the integral in the middle?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

what value did you get?

OpenStudy (math2400):

9.25 actually

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

so that is an underestimate of the integral from 3 to 5

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

\[\Large 9.25 \le \int_{3}^{5} f(x) dx \le R_{4}\]

OpenStudy (math2400):

yes i understand

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

do you know how to find R4?

OpenStudy (math2400):

oh so the Right side.?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

the right endpoint rectangles from a = 3 to b = 5

OpenStudy (math2400):

11.75?

OpenStudy (math2400):

no 9.65

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

yeah 9.65

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

\[\Large 9.25 \le \int_{3}^{5} f(x) dx \le 9.65\]

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

and you'll do the same for a = 5 to a = 7

OpenStudy (math2400):

ok so for the next one it would be from 5 to 6.5 and divide by 1/2? (for the left side

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

multiply by 1/2

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

but yes you have the right idea

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