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OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

Help with a physics lab about the Photoelectric Effect

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

@Data_LG2 this is the website that we are running the lab on: http://phet.colorado.edu/en/simulation/photoelectric

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

Questions: 3. 3. Keep battery voltage at 0. Turn light intensity up to 100%. You will be testing sodium first (metals are changeable in the upper right hand box). 4. Adjust wavelength to a value which just allows electrons to leave the surface at a lowest possible speed. 5. Calculate W in electron volts using the following values and formulas: c = , where c = 2.998E17 nm/sec,  is in nm and  is in s-1 h = 6.626E-34 Js 1 electron volt = 1.60217646 × 10-19 joules h = Ek + W ***remember—Ek is set at zero 6. Calculate work function (in eV) for all other metals, including the mystery metal. 7. Look up work function values on the internet. Identify the mystery metal, and check the values obtained for the other metals. Questions: 1. Choose a metal and choose a wavelength that ejects electrons at a reasonable speed. Turn the light intensity up and down. Make note of the number of electrons ejected. Why does the number change? 2. Using this same wavelength and 100% intensity, change the flow of electricity from the battery (at the bottom of the screen), making note of the change in charge at both ends of the electron chamber. Speculate as to why the flow of electrons is changed.

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

The biggest issue I am having is the formula S:

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

Just realized the formula didnt paste correctly

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

\[c=\lambda v\]

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

\[hv= E _{k}+ W\]

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

be right back

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok.... I'll try to find out how to calculate eV while you're gone :)

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

I am back

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

Sorry I went to take a shower quick

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Alright... so I assume that from the simulation, you can only have the values for wavelength (lambda). \(\sf c=\lambda v, \\ hv= E _{k}+ W \) we can arrange the the 1st formula in terms of the frequency and sub it into the 2nd formula \(\sf c=\lambda v, \\ v= \frac{c}{\lambda}\) insert in 2nd equation and you'll get: \(\sf W= h(\frac{c}{\lambda})-E_k\) we can solve for the W first in terms of Joules, then we can convert it to eV later. So have you gathered the important data (wavelengths with the corresponding number of electrons with each wavelength)?

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

Could you help judging the wave length. Like for me the slowest it moves without producing more electrons is 538 nm

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

like anything lower than that the electrons stop :C

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

i mean higher oops

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I'm not sure how to help you with that part because I can't be able to download or run the application..... well, you can try approximating it. Are you doing a written lab report about this? If yes, then you can probably mention it to under the Discussion part of the report. You can include it as one of the "errors" in this lab.

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

Hokay so question what does 6.626E-34 is that saying e= 2.71828183

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no, upper case E always means \(\sf 10^n\)

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

so 10^-34?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

\[6.626*10^{-34}(\frac{ 2.998 *10^{17} }{ \lambda })-10_{k}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ek = 10? also, what did you get for the wavelength from the simulation?

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

So the closest i get is 538

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

nm

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

I ws confused s: i dont know what Ek is

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh okay... the instruction says: "***remember—Ek is set at zero" unless it is changing in the app? where did you get 10 though? i'm just curious

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

OH rip

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

Sorry was a brain forgetful ness moment

OpenStudy (anonymous):

haha it's okay :P

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

because E always means 10 S: i thought

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ahh if it says \(\sf E_k\) this means the kinetic energy. But if the upper case E is included in some digits, it means \(\sf 10^n\)

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

Hokay so then 6.626∗10^−34(2.998∗10^17/538)−0 ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes, I think so :)

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

So many numbers T_T

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you can do it! :D i'll grab my calc too

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

I just use wolfram as a calculator/mathway

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

cept when i was doing that sin and tan stuff T_T that stuff was annoying

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol alright, that's good then.. now what will be the unit for that?

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

3.69 x 10^-19 Joules?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes, now convert that in terms of eV remember: 1 electron volt = 1.60217646 × 10^-19 joules

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

Oh lord so much lol

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

so does this mean 3.69 electron volts I am confused s:

OpenStudy (anonymous):

tip: if you are confused with converting stuffs, always look at the units. the given: 1 electron volt = 1.60217646 × 10^-19 joules this is eV: J Now, you have 3.69 x 10^-19 Joules, and you are looking for eV follow the order of ratio above: eV: J Now let's do some ratio and proportion: 1 eV : (1.60217646 × 10^-19 joules) = eV : (3.69 x 10^-19 Joules) in fraction form: |dw:1431315268361:dw|

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