Hiiii can someone help me with any of these three questions? ThAnKs!!
what are they?
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oh hold on
okay!
which of them do you know how to do?
its okay thanks anyways!
Hey Natasha! :) To go backwards and find f, given f'', we'll need to anti-differentiate. (Or integrate, I dunno if you've learned that term at this point.) \[\Large\rm f''(x)=-4\sin(2x)\]
Oh there an integral in the next question XD so obviously you have haha
\[\Large\rm f'(x)=\int\limits -4\sin(2x)dx\]
haha yeah we have but it was a while ago! can you refresh my memory?
Umm, to deal with this.. you `can` apply a u-substitution if you're more comfortable with that. \(\Large\rm u=2x\) \(\Large\rm du=2dx\qquad\to\qquad \frac{1}{2}du=dx\) Then your problem becomes:\[\Large\rm \int\limits -4\sin(u)\left(\frac{1}{2}du\right)\]
\[\Large\rm =-2\int\limits \sin(u)du\]Do you remember how to integrate sine? :o derivative of sine is cosine, what do we get if we go backwards though? :)
-cos!
good good good, and now i see that i shouldn't had pulled the negative out front lol\[\Large\rm =-2(-\cos u)+c\]\[\Large\rm =2\cos(u)+c\] Undoing our substitution, \[\Large\rm f'(x)=2\cos(2x)+c\]
They gave us some `initial data`. This allows us to deal with the constant c that shows up when integrating. \(\Large\rm f'(0)=2\) So if you plug in 0 for your x, and 2 for your "y", what do you get for c? :)
would c just be 2?
\[\Large\rm f'(x)=2\cos(2x)+c\]Umm let's check. We'll plug in x=0, y=2,\[\Large\rm 2=2\cos(2\cdot0)+c\]\[\Large\rm 2=2\cos(0)+c\]Cosine of 0 gives us.. 1, ya? :)\[\Large\rm 2=2+c\]
okay yeah i wasnt sure if was that or 2! so just 0?
Ok great, so our f'(x) simplifies down a little bit since our c is zero.\[\Large\rm f'(x)=2\cos(2x)\]We need to integrate again to get from f' to f.
\[\Large\rm f(x)=\int\limits 2\cos(2x)dx\]
We can apply a u-sub AGAIN if you want -_- But I would recommend trying to get used to this little shortcut. umm
Remember when you take a derivative, something like this,\[\Large\rm (\sin2x)'=2cos2x\]You get an extra 2 popping out because of the chain rule, yah?
\[\Large\rm \int\limits \cos2x~dx=\frac{1}{2}\sin2x\]When you integrate, going backwards, you're actually losing that 2! So you we need to divide it out.
\[\Large\rm f(x)=\int\limits\limits 2\cos(2x)dx\]\[\Large\rm f(x)=2\int\limits\limits \cos(2x)dx\]\[\Large\rm f(x)=2\left(\frac{1}{2}\sin2x\right)+c\]Mmm what do you think of that shortcut? :O Prefer to do the ole u-sub?
haha either way is fine but i feel like im probably more comfortable with u sub! :P
ya ya :) stick with what works i guess\[\Large\rm f(x)=\sin(2x)+C\]Ok so we've got this. I'm going to call it big C just so we can show that it's a different constant than before. It's not that same 0 necessarily. Let's plug in our initial data to figure out our C value.
\(\Large\rm f(0)=0\) x=0, y=0. What's that give you for C? :3
0?
Uhhh ok good good good.\[\Large\rm f(x)=\sin(2x)\]
And then bam, plug in your pi/4, ya?
but where do i plug in the pie over 4?
You're evaluating the function f, at x=pi/4. So you're replacing your x's with pi/4's
\[\Large\rm f(\color{orangered}{x})=\sin\left(2\color{orangered}{x}\right)\]Like this, ya? :)\[\Large\rm f\left(\color{orangered}{\frac{\pi}{4}}\right)=\sin\left(2\cdot\color{orangered}{\frac{\pi}{4}}\right)\]
okay! so should i keep my answer with a decimal?
Exact value is probably better. Either method should get you the same value either way for this problem though, because sin(pi/2) simplifies down really nicely.
so the answer is just 1?
Yay good job \c:/ f(pi/4) = 1
thank you so much!
Can we jump down to #12? 11 doesn't look very fun -_- maybe come back to that one lol
haha yeah thats fine!
\[\Large\rm g(x)=\int\limits_2^{3x} e^{t^4}dt\]To find the derivative of an integral, you're applying your Fundamental Theorem of Calculus, part 1.\[\Large\rm \frac{d}{dx}\int\limits_c^x f(t)dt=f(x)\]Does that look familiar maybe? :o
i want to say yes! its just been a while to be honest!
Lemme color things just to make sure this is making sense.\[\Large\rm g(x)=\int\limits\limits_2^{3x} \color{orangered}{e^{t^4}}dt\] The idea is this... you're starting with some messy function, the orange part, we'll call it g(t). You assume some anti-derivative exists, call it G(t), but don't actually look for it. Then you plug in your limits and do subtraction: G(3x)-G(2). Then take derivative getting back to little g.
So you're integrating, then you're differentiating, getting back what you started with, but in terms of a new variable.
We'll take our derivative to find g'(x), \[\Large\rm g'(x)=\frac{d}{dx}\int\limits\limits\limits_2^{3x} \color{orangered}{e^{t^4}}dt\]
\[\Large\rm g'(x)=\frac{d}{dx}\int\limits\limits_2^{3x} \color{orangered}{g(t)}dt\]So if we generalize and call it something like g(t), our first step is to integrate, giving us G(t).\[\Large\rm g'(x)=\frac{d}{dx}\left[G(t)|_2^{3x}\right]\]And then plug in our limits,\[\Large\rm g'(x)=\frac{d}{dx}\left[G(2x)-G(3)\right]\]And then finally apply the derivative.\[\Large\rm g'(x)=\color{orangered}{g(2x)}(2x)'-0\]The thing on the far right is just a constant since we plugged a 3 in, so it's derivative is 0.
What do you think, is this process too confusing? 0_o I can simplify it down a little maybe. I might be going into too much detail.
no i think it makes sense!
Woops, that was a 3x. not 2x's.\[\Large\rm g'(x)=\color{orangered}{g(3x)}(3x)'\]So what happens is, you end up with that same exponential that you started with,\[\Large\rm g'(x)=\color{orangered}{e^{(3x)^4}}(3x)'\]Except the t has been replaced by 3x. And you end up with a little bit of something more because of the chain rule. Your upper limit of integration was `more than simply x` so you end up with some stuff. Looks like an extra 3 in this case, ya?\[\Large\rm g'(x)=\color{orangered}{e^{(3x)^4}}(3)\]
hahah yeah! that makes sense! itll take some practice but it does make sense!
#11 wants us to use the Limit/Reimann definition of integration to find this integral? Mmm I'm a little rusty >.< Lemme see if someone smarter can help out hehe @dan815 @rational
thank you soo much for all your help!
np \c:/
for #11 see if this works http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=%5Csum%5Climits_%7Bi%3D1%7D%5E%7Bn%7D%28%282%28i%2Fn%29%5E2%2B3%28i%2Fn%29-5%29*1%2Fn%29
@natasha.aries
thats the right riemann sum for "n" rectangles you need to take the limit for the exact integral
for the -17n^2 etc..?
do you need to show work ?
yess i dooo
then you cannot let wolfram evaluate the partial sum you need to work it using known formulas
\[\large \int\limits_0^1 (2x^2+3x-5)\,dx~~=~~ \lim\limits_{n\to\infty}\sum\limits_{i=1}^{n} \left(2(\frac{i}{n})^2+3(\frac{i}{n})-5\right)*\frac{1}{n}\]
the right side is the riemann sum, see if it makes sense and try to simplify if psble..
okay! thank u!!
hey we're not done yet, we need to evaluate that partial sum and the limit
did u get how the riemann sum was set up ?
yeah sorry i actually have to go because im feeling light headed. im going to work on this problem in a couple of hours after i rest sorry
hope you can help me then but if not then thanks for the help!
sure tag me when you're back :)
thank you :)
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@rational can we continue this?
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