Ask your own question, for FREE!
Calculus1 23 Online
OpenStudy (anonymous):

Hiiii can someone help me with any of these three questions? ThAnKs!!

OpenStudy (lolipop_drum312):

what are they?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Sorry i'm trying to attach it!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@Lolipop_Drum312

OpenStudy (lolipop_drum312):

oh hold on

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

which of them do you know how to do?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

its okay thanks anyways!

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Hey Natasha! :) To go backwards and find f, given f'', we'll need to anti-differentiate. (Or integrate, I dunno if you've learned that term at this point.) \[\Large\rm f''(x)=-4\sin(2x)\]

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Oh there an integral in the next question XD so obviously you have haha

zepdrix (zepdrix):

\[\Large\rm f'(x)=\int\limits -4\sin(2x)dx\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

haha yeah we have but it was a while ago! can you refresh my memory?

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Umm, to deal with this.. you `can` apply a u-substitution if you're more comfortable with that. \(\Large\rm u=2x\) \(\Large\rm du=2dx\qquad\to\qquad \frac{1}{2}du=dx\) Then your problem becomes:\[\Large\rm \int\limits -4\sin(u)\left(\frac{1}{2}du\right)\]

zepdrix (zepdrix):

\[\Large\rm =-2\int\limits \sin(u)du\]Do you remember how to integrate sine? :o derivative of sine is cosine, what do we get if we go backwards though? :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

-cos!

zepdrix (zepdrix):

good good good, and now i see that i shouldn't had pulled the negative out front lol\[\Large\rm =-2(-\cos u)+c\]\[\Large\rm =2\cos(u)+c\] Undoing our substitution, \[\Large\rm f'(x)=2\cos(2x)+c\]

zepdrix (zepdrix):

They gave us some `initial data`. This allows us to deal with the constant c that shows up when integrating. \(\Large\rm f'(0)=2\) So if you plug in 0 for your x, and 2 for your "y", what do you get for c? :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

would c just be 2?

zepdrix (zepdrix):

\[\Large\rm f'(x)=2\cos(2x)+c\]Umm let's check. We'll plug in x=0, y=2,\[\Large\rm 2=2\cos(2\cdot0)+c\]\[\Large\rm 2=2\cos(0)+c\]Cosine of 0 gives us.. 1, ya? :)\[\Large\rm 2=2+c\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay yeah i wasnt sure if was that or 2! so just 0?

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Ok great, so our f'(x) simplifies down a little bit since our c is zero.\[\Large\rm f'(x)=2\cos(2x)\]We need to integrate again to get from f' to f.

zepdrix (zepdrix):

\[\Large\rm f(x)=\int\limits 2\cos(2x)dx\]

zepdrix (zepdrix):

We can apply a u-sub AGAIN if you want -_- But I would recommend trying to get used to this little shortcut. umm

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Remember when you take a derivative, something like this,\[\Large\rm (\sin2x)'=2cos2x\]You get an extra 2 popping out because of the chain rule, yah?

zepdrix (zepdrix):

\[\Large\rm \int\limits \cos2x~dx=\frac{1}{2}\sin2x\]When you integrate, going backwards, you're actually losing that 2! So you we need to divide it out.

zepdrix (zepdrix):

\[\Large\rm f(x)=\int\limits\limits 2\cos(2x)dx\]\[\Large\rm f(x)=2\int\limits\limits \cos(2x)dx\]\[\Large\rm f(x)=2\left(\frac{1}{2}\sin2x\right)+c\]Mmm what do you think of that shortcut? :O Prefer to do the ole u-sub?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

haha either way is fine but i feel like im probably more comfortable with u sub! :P

zepdrix (zepdrix):

ya ya :) stick with what works i guess\[\Large\rm f(x)=\sin(2x)+C\]Ok so we've got this. I'm going to call it big C just so we can show that it's a different constant than before. It's not that same 0 necessarily. Let's plug in our initial data to figure out our C value.

zepdrix (zepdrix):

\(\Large\rm f(0)=0\) x=0, y=0. What's that give you for C? :3

OpenStudy (anonymous):

0?

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Uhhh ok good good good.\[\Large\rm f(x)=\sin(2x)\]

zepdrix (zepdrix):

And then bam, plug in your pi/4, ya?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but where do i plug in the pie over 4?

zepdrix (zepdrix):

You're evaluating the function f, at x=pi/4. So you're replacing your x's with pi/4's

zepdrix (zepdrix):

\[\Large\rm f(\color{orangered}{x})=\sin\left(2\color{orangered}{x}\right)\]Like this, ya? :)\[\Large\rm f\left(\color{orangered}{\frac{\pi}{4}}\right)=\sin\left(2\cdot\color{orangered}{\frac{\pi}{4}}\right)\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay! so should i keep my answer with a decimal?

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Exact value is probably better. Either method should get you the same value either way for this problem though, because sin(pi/2) simplifies down really nicely.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so the answer is just 1?

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Yay good job \c:/ f(pi/4) = 1

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thank you so much!

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Can we jump down to #12? 11 doesn't look very fun -_- maybe come back to that one lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

haha yeah thats fine!

zepdrix (zepdrix):

\[\Large\rm g(x)=\int\limits_2^{3x} e^{t^4}dt\]To find the derivative of an integral, you're applying your Fundamental Theorem of Calculus, part 1.\[\Large\rm \frac{d}{dx}\int\limits_c^x f(t)dt=f(x)\]Does that look familiar maybe? :o

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i want to say yes! its just been a while to be honest!

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Lemme color things just to make sure this is making sense.\[\Large\rm g(x)=\int\limits\limits_2^{3x} \color{orangered}{e^{t^4}}dt\] The idea is this... you're starting with some messy function, the orange part, we'll call it g(t). You assume some anti-derivative exists, call it G(t), but don't actually look for it. Then you plug in your limits and do subtraction: G(3x)-G(2). Then take derivative getting back to little g.

zepdrix (zepdrix):

So you're integrating, then you're differentiating, getting back what you started with, but in terms of a new variable.

zepdrix (zepdrix):

We'll take our derivative to find g'(x), \[\Large\rm g'(x)=\frac{d}{dx}\int\limits\limits\limits_2^{3x} \color{orangered}{e^{t^4}}dt\]

zepdrix (zepdrix):

\[\Large\rm g'(x)=\frac{d}{dx}\int\limits\limits_2^{3x} \color{orangered}{g(t)}dt\]So if we generalize and call it something like g(t), our first step is to integrate, giving us G(t).\[\Large\rm g'(x)=\frac{d}{dx}\left[G(t)|_2^{3x}\right]\]And then plug in our limits,\[\Large\rm g'(x)=\frac{d}{dx}\left[G(2x)-G(3)\right]\]And then finally apply the derivative.\[\Large\rm g'(x)=\color{orangered}{g(2x)}(2x)'-0\]The thing on the far right is just a constant since we plugged a 3 in, so it's derivative is 0.

zepdrix (zepdrix):

What do you think, is this process too confusing? 0_o I can simplify it down a little maybe. I might be going into too much detail.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no i think it makes sense!

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Woops, that was a 3x. not 2x's.\[\Large\rm g'(x)=\color{orangered}{g(3x)}(3x)'\]So what happens is, you end up with that same exponential that you started with,\[\Large\rm g'(x)=\color{orangered}{e^{(3x)^4}}(3x)'\]Except the t has been replaced by 3x. And you end up with a little bit of something more because of the chain rule. Your upper limit of integration was `more than simply x` so you end up with some stuff. Looks like an extra 3 in this case, ya?\[\Large\rm g'(x)=\color{orangered}{e^{(3x)^4}}(3)\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hahah yeah! that makes sense! itll take some practice but it does make sense!

zepdrix (zepdrix):

#11 wants us to use the Limit/Reimann definition of integration to find this integral? Mmm I'm a little rusty >.< Lemme see if someone smarter can help out hehe @dan815 @rational

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thank you soo much for all your help!

zepdrix (zepdrix):

np \c:/

OpenStudy (rational):

@natasha.aries

OpenStudy (rational):

thats the right riemann sum for "n" rectangles you need to take the limit for the exact integral

OpenStudy (anonymous):

for the -17n^2 etc..?

OpenStudy (rational):

do you need to show work ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yess i dooo

OpenStudy (rational):

then you cannot let wolfram evaluate the partial sum you need to work it using known formulas

OpenStudy (rational):

\[\large \int\limits_0^1 (2x^2+3x-5)\,dx~~=~~ \lim\limits_{n\to\infty}\sum\limits_{i=1}^{n} \left(2(\frac{i}{n})^2+3(\frac{i}{n})-5\right)*\frac{1}{n}\]

OpenStudy (rational):

the right side is the riemann sum, see if it makes sense and try to simplify if psble..

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay! thank u!!

OpenStudy (rational):

hey we're not done yet, we need to evaluate that partial sum and the limit

OpenStudy (rational):

did u get how the riemann sum was set up ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah sorry i actually have to go because im feeling light headed. im going to work on this problem in a couple of hours after i rest sorry

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hope you can help me then but if not then thanks for the help!

OpenStudy (rational):

sure tag me when you're back :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thank you :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

im backk @rational

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@rational can we continue this?

Can't find your answer? Make a FREE account and ask your own questions, OR help others and earn volunteer hours!

Join our real-time social learning platform and learn together with your friends!
Can't find your answer? Make a FREE account and ask your own questions, OR help others and earn volunteer hours!

Join our real-time social learning platform and learn together with your friends!