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OpenStudy (jennyrlz):

help please :)

OpenStudy (jennyrlz):

Find the derivative of f(x) = 8x2 + 11x at x = 7.

OpenStudy (jennyrlz):

hello :)

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

first, find f`(x)

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

can you just take the derivative of the function term by term?

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

go ahead, don't be afraid to interrupt me

OpenStudy (jennyrlz):

i am sorry but i dont really understand this :/

OpenStudy (jennyrlz):

can instead of using this question like make one up and just show me how to do it :)

OpenStudy (jennyrlz):

i learn better by seeing than being walked through xD

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

you need to find the derivative, and to then plug in 7 for x into the derivative. I can give you a different example, sure:) here....

OpenStudy (jennyrlz):

thank you xD

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

Find the derivative of \(f(x)=3x^3-2x^2+x+2\) at x = 2. --------------------------------------------------- Steps: 1) Find the derivative of the function. 2) Plug in 2 for x into the derivative. Solutions: \(\large\color{black}{ \displaystyle f(x)=3x^3-2x^2+x+2 }\) (taking the derivative. BELOW) \(\large\color{black}{ \displaystyle f'(x)=\color{red}{3\times }3x^{\color{red}{3}-1}-\color{red}{2\times }2x^{\color{red}{2}-1}+\color{red}{1\times }x^{\color{red}{1}-1}+0 }\) (I demonstrated how power rule works here, just in case) \(\large\color{black}{ \displaystyle f'(x)=9x^2-2x^2+1+0 }\) simplifying, \(\large\color{black}{ \displaystyle f'(x)=9x^2-2x^2+1 }\) now, you need the derivative at x=2, \(\large\color{black}{ \displaystyle f'(2)=9(2)^2-2(2)^2+1 }\) \(\large\color{black}{ \displaystyle f'(2)=36-8+1 }\) \(\large\color{black}{ \displaystyle f'(2)=29 }\)

OpenStudy (jennyrlz):

back :)

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

k, after you read my short example, say if you have any questions. Ask absolutely anything you are not comfortable with.

OpenStudy (jennyrlz):

what is the power rule? if i heard this so many times from other people but i still don know what it is :/

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

oh, ok

OpenStudy (jennyrlz):

i did here someone say there where more than one

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

\(\large\color{royalblue}{ \displaystyle \frac{d}{dx}~\left[~x^{\rm n}~\right]={\rm n}\cdot x^{{\rm n}-1}}\) d/dx is the notation for a derivative of a function with respect to x (i.e. that x is the input/independent variable). n is just some number (for any \(\rm n\) asides from n=0)

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

and then there is another rule, that involves having x to some power multiplied by a constant (i.e. w/ a coefficient in front)

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

it goes as follows

OpenStudy (jennyrlz):

so how would i use this fro the problem?

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

\(\large\color{royalblue}{ \displaystyle \frac{d}{dx}~\left[~{\rm a} \cdot x^{\rm n}~\right]={\rm a} \cdot{\rm n}\cdot x^{{\rm n}-1}}\)

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

I will show you how I did it for my example, because you apparently didn't understand it fully. we will go through it together.

OpenStudy (jennyrlz):

thank you :)

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

the derivative of \(x^n\) is \(n \times x^{n-1}\) so, if I wanted to find the derivative of \(x^2\) what would my derivative be?

OpenStudy (jennyrlz):

1?

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

\(x^2\) will have a derivative of \(2\times x^{2-1}\) which simplifies to \(2x\)

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

you multiply times the power, and then decrease the power by 1.

OpenStudy (jennyrlz):

ohhhh k i see

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

k, tell me what is the derivative of \(x^3\) ?

OpenStudy (jennyrlz):

it would be 3x3x^2

OpenStudy (jennyrlz):

making it 9x^2

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

why?

OpenStudy (jennyrlz):

ohhhh my bad i miss red lol

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

\(x^3\) will have a derivative of \(3\times x^{3-1}\)

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

3x^2

OpenStudy (jennyrlz):

i for somereason read a 3 innfront of x lol

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

oh... ok, a different one ok, how about derivative of \(x^4\) ?

OpenStudy (jennyrlz):

4x^3

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

yup

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

and derivative of \(2x^3\) ?

OpenStudy (jennyrlz):

then for my first question which is 8x^2 would i get 16x?

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

yes

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

and 11x ?

OpenStudy (jennyrlz):

thank you xDDDD

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

yw, and 11x will have a derivative of?

OpenStudy (jennyrlz):

11x stays 11 corret

OpenStudy (jennyrlz):

1

OpenStudy (jennyrlz):

because the power 1

OpenStudy (jennyrlz):

1x11x

OpenStudy (jennyrlz):

then if we minus it turns into the power of 0 o.o

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

\(11x\) is same as \(11x^1\) and has a derivative of \(1\times 11x^{1-1}\) which is: 11

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

this way any \({\rm C}x\) will have a derivative of just C.

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

clear?

OpenStudy (jennyrlz):

yea :)

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

ok, and I know we have no constants in the function, but can you tell me what is the derivative of a constant. for example, what is the derivative of 7?

OpenStudy (jennyrlz):

their would be no derivative

OpenStudy (jennyrlz):

correct...?

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

derivative of the function is the slope of the function, correct?

OpenStudy (jennyrlz):

ok

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

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OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

what is the slope of the line y=C ?

OpenStudy (jennyrlz):

since it is rise over run it would be 0/1?

OpenStudy (jennyrlz):

the line never rises nor falls

OpenStudy (jennyrlz):

just stays constant

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

yes, when you choose any 2 points (a,c) and (b,c) on a horizontal line y=c you get \(\large\color{royalblue}{ \displaystyle m=\frac{c-c}{a-b}=0}\) (that is a general prove for the slope of a horiz. line)

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

and that is why we have a rule that the derivative of a constant is 0.

OpenStudy (jennyrlz):

ohhhhhh

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

the derivative of a constant (that is the slope of the function y=C, where C is a constant), is 0.

OpenStudy (jennyrlz):

so if i had a funtion like 4x+8 at x=4 then i would get fx=4+0

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

if you have a function f(x)=4x+8 then your derivative would be f`(x)=4+0 f`(x)=4 no mater what you plug in for x, you get 4 for f`(x), THAT MEANS that at any point x=a, the slope of the function is 4. Which is true because it is a straight line and its slope doesn't change.

OpenStudy (jennyrlz):

ok thank you so much :)

OpenStudy (jennyrlz):

if only i could medal you more than once

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

ok, so just some things in general I wanted to post for final clarifications. (if you won't understand my notations, please ask, because those will be frequently used). (rule 1) \(\large\color{royalblue}{ \displaystyle \frac{d}{dx}~\left[~ x^{\rm n}~\right]={\rm n}\cdot x^{{\rm n}-1}}\) (rule 2) \(\large\color{royalblue}{ \displaystyle \frac{d}{dx}~\left[~{\rm a} \cdot x^{\rm n}~\right]={\rm a} \cdot{\rm n}\cdot x^{{\rm n}-1}}\) (rule 3) \(\large\color{royalblue}{ \displaystyle \frac{d}{dx}~\left[~{\rm C} ~\right]=0}\)

OpenStudy (jennyrlz):

wait what if its like -7/x ?

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

(don;t worry about medals, I got 8k or over)

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

then you would also apply the power rule

OpenStudy (jennyrlz):

and it would be -7?

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

\(\large\color{royalblue}{ \displaystyle \frac{d}{dx}~\left[~(-7)\cdot x^{-1} ~\right]}\)

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

^ ^ that is what you are finding

OpenStudy (jennyrlz):

becouse i have a question that asks -7/x at x=-3

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

ok, first, rewrite the function. f(x)=-7/x is same as f`(x) = (-7) \(\cdot \) x\(^{-1}\)

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

then apply the power rule

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

typo in my post when I said `ok, at first` the very last function is f(x) not f`(x)

OpenStudy (jennyrlz):

the power rule would make it (-7)*0? and its ok i still understood it :)

OpenStudy (jennyrlz):

my answer choices are: 3/7 9/7 7/3 7/9

OpenStudy (solomonzelman):

I got disconnected, my apologies.

OpenStudy (jennyrlz):

its ok :)

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