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OpenStudy (kidrah69):

@mathmate

OpenStudy (mathmate):

Factor x^2+x-20

OpenStudy (kidrah69):

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OpenStudy (mathmate):

What you need to do to factor ax^2+bx+c is to find two numbers m, n so that m*n = ac m+n=b If a=1, then life is a little easier, because we do mn=c m+n=b Here a=1, b=1,c=-20

OpenStudy (mathmate):

There you go, can you write down the answer?

OpenStudy (kidrah69):

(x+5)(x-4) :)

OpenStudy (mathmate):

Great! Well done. Let try another one.

OpenStudy (mathmate):

x^2+x-12

OpenStudy (mathmate):

I like your diagram,makes life easier!

OpenStudy (kidrah69):

|dw:1431962705126:dw| im not sure :(

OpenStudy (mathmate):

First find factors of 12 that have a difference of 1. From 1/12 2/6 3/4 ...

OpenStudy (mathmate):

Worry about the sign later.

OpenStudy (kidrah69):

(x+4)(x-3)

OpenStudy (mathmate):

Bingo! You got it again! Now try this Factor 6x^2+7x-20

OpenStudy (mathmate):

It will be a little harder, but you need to find m, n first.

OpenStudy (kidrah69):

O_O i dont like these! |dw:1431962946952:dw|

OpenStudy (mathmate):

Can you find m,n? Try 1,120 (difference =119, no good) 2,60 3,40 4,30 (diff=26, still no good) ...

OpenStudy (mathmate):

BTW, if c is negative, you look for the difference, if c is positive, you look for the sum.

OpenStudy (kidrah69):

there are no factors to this :/

OpenStudy (mathmate):

to continue the list above, 5,24 6,20 8,15 10,12 ... do you find m,n

OpenStudy (mathmate):

k, will continue later.

OpenStudy (kidrah69):

Nothing goes into those numbers T_T

TheSmartOne (thesmartone):

If you don't see the numbers that way, you can always use the Quadratic Formula. \(\sf\LARGE x=\frac{-b\pm \sqrt{b^2-4ac}}{2a}\) where \(\sf\Large ax^2+bx+c\) and then whatever you get as the value of x, lets say x=1, x=3 then we know that if it was factored it would become: x = 1 -1 -1 x - 1 = 0 x = 3 -3 -3 x - 3 = 0 and we know that (x-1)(x-3) was the factored form of the equation.

OpenStudy (mathmate):

|dw:1431967983770:dw| 8*15=120, 8-15=-7, so now we have to work on the sign. Since b=+7, we will have to put |dw:1431968041418:dw| to get 15-8=+7. Now that we have got m,n, then all we need to do is to split the x term into two using 15x-8x instead of 7x: \(6x^2+15x-8x-20\) and factorize by grouping =\(6x^2+15x-8x-20\) now extract the - sign in the group -8x - 20 =\( (6x^2+15x) - (8x+20)\) now extract the common factors 3x and -4 from each group =\( 3x(2x+5) - 4(2x+5)\) now extract the common factor 2x+5 =\( (3x-4)(2x+5)\) and we're done

OpenStudy (kidrah69):

got it can we do another one like that? :)

OpenStudy (mathmate):

Sure! coming up. Factor \(30x^2+23x−14\)

OpenStudy (kidrah69):

O_O

OpenStudy (mathmate):

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OpenStudy (mathmate):

Now m n difference 1 420 419 (too big, will skip a few) 10 42 32 12 35 23 14 30 16 ... Which one would you choose for m,n?

TheSmartOne (thesmartone):

With some huge equations like that, if it is too timely to list all the factors and find its roots, the quadratic equation is always an option :)

OpenStudy (kidrah69):

@Thesmarterone i need to learn this way though XD Mm its 12 and 35 right?

OpenStudy (mathmate):

@TheSmartOne practice makes perfect. If we can do 420, 36 would be a piece of cake.

OpenStudy (mathmate):

exactly! so can you complete the diagram?

OpenStudy (kidrah69):

next class bbl

TheSmartOne (thesmartone):

Sometimes you can try to check if the equation follows one of these patterns: \(\sf (a+b)^2 = a^2+2ab+b^2\) \(\sf (a-b)^2 = a^2-2ab+b^2\) And there are many ways to solve one equation, you want to find the way that is easiest for you unless your teacher wants you to solve it one particular way :P

OpenStudy (mathmate):

@TheSmartOne very true. I was trying to help her learn one method. Once she gets it, then we introduce shorter ones, like the quad. formula, standard forms. If we give her 4 methods to start, it is easy to get confused. That's also why I chose one that does not belong to the perfect squares, difference of two squares, etc. They will come later. The grouping one is the one that is most difficult for most students.

TheSmartOne (thesmartone):

@mathmate That is true, and I believe you are doing a great job teaching her! :D

OpenStudy (mathmate):

Thank you! It takes more than one... she is a great and focused student!

OpenStudy (kidrah69):

Ok :) ready to learn >_< ok i know the quadratic formula way but this is what i am currently doing :P ok so can we start with a fresh one ? im confused now :(

OpenStudy (kidrah69):

@mathmate

OpenStudy (mathmate):

where were we? Factor 30x^2+23x−14.

OpenStudy (mathmate):

and: |dw:1431983345239:dw|

OpenStudy (mathmate):

and Now m n difference 1 420 419 (too big, will skip a few) 10 42 32 12 35 23 14 30 16 ... so 12 and 35 are our choices of m,n needed to complete the circle.

OpenStudy (kidrah69):

Ok so it would be like this : \[(30x^2+35x)(12x-14)\] for the first one we divide by 5 we get 5x(6x+7) for the 2nd one we divide by 2 we get... 2(6x+7) final answer (6x+7)(5x+2)

OpenStudy (kidrah69):

wait i messed up >_<

OpenStudy (kidrah69):

its -12...

OpenStudy (mathmate):

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