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OpenStudy (babynini):

Heulp!

OpenStudy (babynini):

OpenStudy (babynini):

Everything equals 1 :|

OpenStudy (babynini):

@zepdrix

zepdrix (zepdrix):

hold up i need beverage +_+

OpenStudy (babynini):

haha ok

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Oh you have to choose from the 4 graphs?

OpenStudy (babynini):

Yep.

OpenStudy (babynini):

and then do the other equation things

OpenStudy (babynini):

r = 1 tan(theta) = 1 (what is this in radians?)

zepdrix (zepdrix):

r=1?

zepdrix (zepdrix):

\(\Large\rm r=\sqrt{1^2+1^2}\)

zepdrix (zepdrix):

tan(theta)=1 gives theta=pi/4

OpenStudy (babynini):

...my turn to go get a drink :|

zepdrix (zepdrix):

lol

OpenStudy (babynini):

How do you get that theta = pi/4 I am still confused how to find that out o.0

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Ok time for my trick. Maybe you won't like it.

OpenStudy (babynini):

xD let's give it a try :)

zepdrix (zepdrix):

\[\Large\rm (1+\mathcal i)^{1/3}\]I don't like this radius nonsense. I just like to try and turn my real and imaginary parts into these "special numbers" that we're used to seeing from trick. I notice the they're THE SAME, 1 on each, so we want some sqrt(2)/2's. That's where sine and cosine are the same. So I'll factor a sqrt(2) out of each term:\[\Large\rm \sqrt{2}^{1/3}\left[\frac{\sqrt2}{2}+\frac{\sqrt2}{2}\mathcal i\right]^{1/3}\]And then I say, oh yah, this is pi/4.\[\Large\rm \sqrt{2}^{1/3}\left[cis\left(\frac{\pi}{4}+2k \pi\right)\right]^{1/3}\]

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Too fancy? :U Confusing??

zepdrix (zepdrix):

these special numbers that we're used to seeing from trig* typo

OpenStudy (babynini):

*blink...blink. That may make sense in the morning ;P it looks cool! but It's a little sketchy haha

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Ok back to Earth then. So we're having trouble understanding why \(\Large\rm \tan(\theta)=1\) gives us \(\Large\rm \theta=\frac{\pi}{4}\)...?

OpenStudy (babynini):

Sowry. I'll read it again in the morning I promise! :) yeah

zepdrix (zepdrix):

oh bed time? :O ok fine fine

OpenStudy (babynini):

no no I meant that fancy thing. I'm good

zepdrix (zepdrix):

oh lol :)

zepdrix (zepdrix):

You really have to put some of your special angles to memory. It would just take too long to go into detail about why tan(x)=1 gives x=pi/4. tan(x)=sin(x)/cos(x)=1 So you're looking on your unit circle where sin(x) and cos(x) are the same, because they have to divide and give you 1.

zepdrix (zepdrix):

\[\Large\rm r=\sqrt2\]\[\Large\rm \theta=\frac{\pi}{4}\]Ya? :o

OpenStudy (babynini):

o. hrmm yes I see. That makes sense :)

OpenStudy (babynini):

ok so back to the question now that we have a formula thing. w subscript 0 would equal \[w _{0}\sqrt[3]{2}cis(\frac{ \pi }{ 12 }) yeah?\]

OpenStudy (babynini):

ooh shoot it didn't ask for the third root

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Out front we should have: \(\Large\rm (\sqrt{2})^{1/3}=2^{1/6}\)

OpenStudy (babynini):

woah what?

zepdrix (zepdrix):

You have to take the cube root of your radius, ya? \(\Large\rm r=\sqrt{2}\). \(\Large\rm r^{1/3}=(\sqrt{2})^{1/3}\)

OpenStudy (babynini):

for what do I have to take the cube root?

OpenStudy (babynini):

oh gosh hah

OpenStudy (babynini):

\[w _{k}=\sqrt[n]{r}cis \frac{ \theta+2kpi }{ n } \] where k = 0,1,2

OpenStudy (babynini):

so that's the formula I have..

OpenStudy (babynini):

but there's no n in our case, yeah? oh. I see what you're saying now.

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Bah, I dunno.. stop using formulas >:U

OpenStudy (babynini):

oki.

zepdrix (zepdrix):

We start with this:\[\Large\rm z=1+\mathcal{i}\]We determined that we can write it in this form:\[\Large\rm z=r\left[cis \theta\right]\]With our r=sqrt(2) and theta=pi/4.\[\Large\rm z=\sqrt2\left[cis \frac{\pi}{4}\right]\]And yes, we should allow for rotations, so we'll throw a 2k pi into the mix,\[\Large\rm z=\sqrt2\left[cis\left(\frac{\pi}{4}+2k \pi\right)\right]\]Then we're taking the cube root of our complex number, giving us,\[\Large\rm z=(\sqrt2)^{1/3}\left[cis\left(\frac{\pi}{4}+2k \pi\right)\right]^{1/3}\]Apply De'Moivre's Theorem let's us bring the 1/3 inside,\[\Large\rm z=(\sqrt2)^{1/3}\left[cis\left(\frac{\pi}{12}+\frac{2k \pi}{3}\right)\right]\]

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Those last two lines should be \(\Large\rm z^{1/3}\) on the left side, my bad.

zepdrix (zepdrix):

If you want to use your formula, that's ok. Just make sure you plug in your radius correctly.\[\Large w _{k}=\sqrt[n]{\color{orangered}{r}}~cis\left(\frac{ \theta+2k \pi }{ n }\right)\]\[\Large w _{k}=\sqrt[n]{\color{orangered}{\sqrt{2}}}~cis\left(\frac{ \theta+2k \pi }{ n }\right)\]

zepdrix (zepdrix):

You were simply plugging a 2 in for your r before.

OpenStudy (babynini):

your way is simplier. thanks

zepdrix (zepdrix):

simplier :3 lol

OpenStudy (babynini):

final would be \[2^{\frac{ 1 }{ 6 }}(\cos \frac{ \pi }{ 12 }+isin \frac{ \pi }{ 12 })\]

zepdrix (zepdrix):

for w0, yes.

OpenStudy (babynini):

haa, yay! the next ones would be 5pi/12 and 13pi/12?

zepdrix (zepdrix):

is that something you keep in y our tool chest? simpliers? kinda like pliers but simpler? 0_o

OpenStudy (babynini):

lol xD

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Hmm, no. I think the next one is 9pi/12. You're plugging in k=1, and then you need a common denominator between your fractions, ya?

OpenStudy (babynini):

Oh stop it. It should be a word!

OpenStudy (babynini):

hrmm let me check my work :o

OpenStudy (babynini):

oh yeah, sorry. is the 13 right?

zepdrix (zepdrix):

13pi/12? No I don't think so.

zepdrix (zepdrix):

\[\Large\rm \frac{\pi}{12}+\frac{2k \pi}{3}=\frac{\pi}{12}+\frac{8k \pi}{12}\]

OpenStudy (babynini):

oh asdgpahspdgi i keep doing pi/3 instead of pi/4

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Ah you silly billy :O

OpenStudy (babynini):

16pi/12?

zepdrix (zepdrix):

no -_- come onnnnnnn

OpenStudy (babynini):

waaaahh

zepdrix (zepdrix):

\[\Large\rm \frac{\pi}{12}+\frac{8\cdot0 \pi}{12}\] \[\Large\rm \frac{\pi}{12}+\frac{8\cdot 1\pi}{12}\] \[\Large\rm \frac{\pi}{12}+\frac{8\cdot 2\pi}{12}\]

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Those are your three angles, ya?

zepdrix (zepdrix):

So the last one is pi/12.......... . .. . . PLUS 16pi/12.

OpenStudy (babynini):

Yeahh. siiigh yeah, i see.

OpenStudy (babynini):

DONE. Except for picking the graph.

OpenStudy (babynini):

Third one? (on the left in the second pic)

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Third option? I don't think so.. Look at the first dot, it looks like it's located somewhere around pi/4. Our first angle should way way smaller than that, ya?

OpenStudy (babynini):

numberu 1?

zepdrix (zepdrix):

mmmmmm ya i would go with #1. that seems to make the most sense to me :O

OpenStudy (babynini):

:))

OpenStudy (babynini):

*happy dance. Thanks for putting up with my ridiculous answers at times. yay for green check marks.

zepdrix (zepdrix):

always happy to see those :) red x's are so stupid, *grumble grumble*

OpenStudy (babynini):

Preach it.

OpenStudy (babynini):

Okies, I am retiring to my bed :P

OpenStudy (babynini):

Night, sleep happy whenever you go to bed ^_^

zepdrix (zepdrix):

~\c:

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