Heulp!
Everything equals 1 :|
@zepdrix
hold up i need beverage +_+
haha ok
Oh you have to choose from the 4 graphs?
Yep.
and then do the other equation things
r = 1 tan(theta) = 1 (what is this in radians?)
r=1?
\(\Large\rm r=\sqrt{1^2+1^2}\)
tan(theta)=1 gives theta=pi/4
...my turn to go get a drink :|
lol
How do you get that theta = pi/4 I am still confused how to find that out o.0
Ok time for my trick. Maybe you won't like it.
xD let's give it a try :)
\[\Large\rm (1+\mathcal i)^{1/3}\]I don't like this radius nonsense. I just like to try and turn my real and imaginary parts into these "special numbers" that we're used to seeing from trick. I notice the they're THE SAME, 1 on each, so we want some sqrt(2)/2's. That's where sine and cosine are the same. So I'll factor a sqrt(2) out of each term:\[\Large\rm \sqrt{2}^{1/3}\left[\frac{\sqrt2}{2}+\frac{\sqrt2}{2}\mathcal i\right]^{1/3}\]And then I say, oh yah, this is pi/4.\[\Large\rm \sqrt{2}^{1/3}\left[cis\left(\frac{\pi}{4}+2k \pi\right)\right]^{1/3}\]
Too fancy? :U Confusing??
these special numbers that we're used to seeing from trig* typo
*blink...blink. That may make sense in the morning ;P it looks cool! but It's a little sketchy haha
Ok back to Earth then. So we're having trouble understanding why \(\Large\rm \tan(\theta)=1\) gives us \(\Large\rm \theta=\frac{\pi}{4}\)...?
Sowry. I'll read it again in the morning I promise! :) yeah
oh bed time? :O ok fine fine
no no I meant that fancy thing. I'm good
oh lol :)
You really have to put some of your special angles to memory. It would just take too long to go into detail about why tan(x)=1 gives x=pi/4. tan(x)=sin(x)/cos(x)=1 So you're looking on your unit circle where sin(x) and cos(x) are the same, because they have to divide and give you 1.
\[\Large\rm r=\sqrt2\]\[\Large\rm \theta=\frac{\pi}{4}\]Ya? :o
o. hrmm yes I see. That makes sense :)
ok so back to the question now that we have a formula thing. w subscript 0 would equal \[w _{0}\sqrt[3]{2}cis(\frac{ \pi }{ 12 }) yeah?\]
ooh shoot it didn't ask for the third root
Out front we should have: \(\Large\rm (\sqrt{2})^{1/3}=2^{1/6}\)
woah what?
You have to take the cube root of your radius, ya? \(\Large\rm r=\sqrt{2}\). \(\Large\rm r^{1/3}=(\sqrt{2})^{1/3}\)
for what do I have to take the cube root?
oh gosh hah
\[w _{k}=\sqrt[n]{r}cis \frac{ \theta+2kpi }{ n } \] where k = 0,1,2
so that's the formula I have..
but there's no n in our case, yeah? oh. I see what you're saying now.
Bah, I dunno.. stop using formulas >:U
oki.
We start with this:\[\Large\rm z=1+\mathcal{i}\]We determined that we can write it in this form:\[\Large\rm z=r\left[cis \theta\right]\]With our r=sqrt(2) and theta=pi/4.\[\Large\rm z=\sqrt2\left[cis \frac{\pi}{4}\right]\]And yes, we should allow for rotations, so we'll throw a 2k pi into the mix,\[\Large\rm z=\sqrt2\left[cis\left(\frac{\pi}{4}+2k \pi\right)\right]\]Then we're taking the cube root of our complex number, giving us,\[\Large\rm z=(\sqrt2)^{1/3}\left[cis\left(\frac{\pi}{4}+2k \pi\right)\right]^{1/3}\]Apply De'Moivre's Theorem let's us bring the 1/3 inside,\[\Large\rm z=(\sqrt2)^{1/3}\left[cis\left(\frac{\pi}{12}+\frac{2k \pi}{3}\right)\right]\]
Those last two lines should be \(\Large\rm z^{1/3}\) on the left side, my bad.
If you want to use your formula, that's ok. Just make sure you plug in your radius correctly.\[\Large w _{k}=\sqrt[n]{\color{orangered}{r}}~cis\left(\frac{ \theta+2k \pi }{ n }\right)\]\[\Large w _{k}=\sqrt[n]{\color{orangered}{\sqrt{2}}}~cis\left(\frac{ \theta+2k \pi }{ n }\right)\]
You were simply plugging a 2 in for your r before.
your way is simplier. thanks
simplier :3 lol
final would be \[2^{\frac{ 1 }{ 6 }}(\cos \frac{ \pi }{ 12 }+isin \frac{ \pi }{ 12 })\]
for w0, yes.
haa, yay! the next ones would be 5pi/12 and 13pi/12?
is that something you keep in y our tool chest? simpliers? kinda like pliers but simpler? 0_o
lol xD
Hmm, no. I think the next one is 9pi/12. You're plugging in k=1, and then you need a common denominator between your fractions, ya?
Oh stop it. It should be a word!
hrmm let me check my work :o
oh yeah, sorry. is the 13 right?
13pi/12? No I don't think so.
\[\Large\rm \frac{\pi}{12}+\frac{2k \pi}{3}=\frac{\pi}{12}+\frac{8k \pi}{12}\]
oh asdgpahspdgi i keep doing pi/3 instead of pi/4
Ah you silly billy :O
16pi/12?
no -_- come onnnnnnn
waaaahh
\[\Large\rm \frac{\pi}{12}+\frac{8\cdot0 \pi}{12}\] \[\Large\rm \frac{\pi}{12}+\frac{8\cdot 1\pi}{12}\] \[\Large\rm \frac{\pi}{12}+\frac{8\cdot 2\pi}{12}\]
Those are your three angles, ya?
So the last one is pi/12.......... . .. . . PLUS 16pi/12.
Yeahh. siiigh yeah, i see.
DONE. Except for picking the graph.
Third one? (on the left in the second pic)
Third option? I don't think so.. Look at the first dot, it looks like it's located somewhere around pi/4. Our first angle should way way smaller than that, ya?
numberu 1?
mmmmmm ya i would go with #1. that seems to make the most sense to me :O
:))
*happy dance. Thanks for putting up with my ridiculous answers at times. yay for green check marks.
always happy to see those :) red x's are so stupid, *grumble grumble*
Preach it.
Okies, I am retiring to my bed :P
Night, sleep happy whenever you go to bed ^_^
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