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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Integration Q

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\int\limits_{0}^{2} \sqrt{\frac{ x }{ 4-x }}dx \] \[(x=4\sin^2(\theta))\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\int\limits_{0}^{2} \sqrt{\frac{ 4\sin^2(\theta) }{ 4 - 4\sin^2(\theta) }} dx\]

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

use: 1- sin^2 = cos^2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

uhm where?

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

in the numerator (factor it first)

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

4 - 4sin^2 = 4(1-sin^2) . . .

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

* denominator

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

. Can you simplify the fraction ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\int\limits_{0}^{2}\sqrt{\frac{ 4(1-\cos^2(\theta)) }{ ? }}\] that is what you are suggesting me to do?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\int\limits_{0}^{2}\sqrt{\frac{ 4-4\cos^2(\theta) }{ 4-4\sin^2(\theta) }}\]

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

not quite sorry, i mean this: \[\frac{ 4\sin^2(\theta) }{ 4 - 4\sin^2(\theta) }=\frac{ 4\sin^2(\theta) }{ 4(1 - \sin^2(\theta)) } = ...\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ohh alright haha

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

(i got my words mixed up numerator/denominator )

OpenStudy (anonymous):

in that case I can cancel both 4's, correct.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

which I will be left with sin^2(theta) / 1-sin^2(theta) <-- cost^2(theta)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

which then becomes tan^2(theta)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Then I have to solve tan^2(2) - tan^2(0) right? or.. first I have to get back what was x

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

dont forget the sqrt

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

and you will also want to change dx to d(theta)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\int\limits\limits_{0}^{2} \sqrt{\tan^2(\theta)}dx\]

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

good so what is \(dx/d\theta\) ?

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

remember \[x = 4\sin^2\theta\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

that means we have to solve for theta? that was we bring back what theta is

OpenStudy (anonymous):

x*

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

don't solve it yet, differentiate first

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

\[dx = \quad . . .\quad d\theta\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

8sin(theta) cos(theta)?

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

yes

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

so, now swap dx for 8sin(theta) cos(theta) d(theta) in the integral

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ooo I see what you did there.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\int\limits_{0}^{2}\sqrt{\tan^2(\theta)} *8\sin(\theta)\cos(\theta) d \theta\]

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

right. can we simplify the integrand ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\int\limits_{0}^{2}8\sin(\theta)\cos(\theta)\sqrt{\tan^2(\theta)}d \theta\]\[8\int\limits_{0}^{2} \sin(\theta)\cos(\theta)\sqrt{\tan^2(\theta)} d \theta\]

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

a good start, now also recall that \(\sqrt a^2 = a\) and that tan = sin/cos

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[8\int\limits_{0}^{2}\sin(\theta)\cos(\theta)\tan(\theta) d \theta\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Forgot to simplify that hehe

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

\[\sin(\theta)\cos(\theta)\tan(\theta)\\ = \sin(\theta)\cos(\theta)\frac{\sin(\theta)}{\cos(\theta)}\\= . . .\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[8\int\limits_{0}^{2}\sin(\theta)\cos(\theta)\frac{ \sin(\theta) }{ \cos(\theta) } d \theta\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

we kill cos(theta) and we are left with sin^2(theta)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[8\int\limits_{0}^{2} \sin^2(\theta) d \theta\]

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

great work, (also. we might want to explicitly write it as: \[8\int\limits_{x=0}^{x=2} \sin^2(\theta) d \theta\]) so we don't forget where those limits really are

OpenStudy (anonymous):

alright

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

can you integrate \[\int \sin^2(\theta)\, d \theta\]?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I'm not sure how to integrate sin^2(theta)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

according to the table of integrals that its equals to x/2 - sin(2ax)/4a

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[8[\frac{ \theta }{ 2 } - \frac{ \sin(2\theta) }{ 4 }]\]

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

and remembering our limits: \[8\left[\frac{ \theta }{ 2 } - \frac{ \sin(2\theta) }{ 4 }\right]_{x=0}^{x=2}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

correct. Now what comes in mind is substitute the thetas with x's

OpenStudy (anonymous):

or changing the limits into theta form

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

either should work, one way is usually easier

OpenStudy (anonymous):

changing the x values to the theta values

OpenStudy (anonymous):

x = 4sin^2(theta)

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

so x=0 ---> theta = . . . and x=2 ----> theta = . . .

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I have to solve for theta first.. which is basically the same as if I substituted it uhmm

OpenStudy (anonymous):

x/4 = sin^2(theta)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

0 = sin^2(theta) 1/2 = sin^2(theta)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

when sin is 0 that is pi?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no. that is 0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

How do you figure out when sin is squared?

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

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