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OpenStudy (anonymous):

kinda hard question: Which of these series is absolutely convergent?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the first is the only one that gave a clear cut answer of 2/9

OpenStudy (anonymous):

might that be it?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

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OpenStudy (perl):

absolutely convergent, means convergent with absolute value bars, right?

OpenStudy (perl):

conditionally convergent allows the possibility of negative terms (alternating series)

OpenStudy (perl):

only one of those series is absolutely convergent,

OpenStudy (anonymous):

right

OpenStudy (perl):

lets start by eliminating choices. whats the problem with the second choice

OpenStudy (anonymous):

wolfram alpha gives 2/9 and that seems pretty damn absolute to me

OpenStudy (anonymous):

haha

OpenStudy (perl):

that is the alternating series, the absolute convergence is different

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so could it be a?

OpenStudy (perl):

oh youre talking about the first choice

OpenStudy (perl):

yes but you inputted it incorrectly, we are interested in the absolute value of terms of the series

OpenStudy (perl):

you see, using your logic, choice b converges too http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=sum+%28n%3D1%2C+infinity%29+%28-1%29^%28n-1%29+n^2+%2F+%28n^3+%2B+1%29+

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ohhhhhh so its just convergence but with absolute value?

OpenStudy (perl):

right

OpenStudy (perl):

that narrows down the choices to one answer

OpenStudy (anonymous):

right, actually my logic was that a gave the neatest answer, a nice and simple 2/9, which i assumed was 'absolute' in that it was totally unambiguous,

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol

OpenStudy (perl):

ahh, be careful about terminology

OpenStudy (perl):

why wasn't choice b) totally unambiguous?

OpenStudy (perl):

using that reasoning

OpenStudy (perl):

oh because it didn't give a nice answer ( a fraction) ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

huh so it was b, except now i actually know why

OpenStudy (perl):

the answer should be a)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah i thought b was too drawn out, lmao i know, not how a mathematician should think

OpenStudy (anonymous):

right sorry i meant a

OpenStudy (perl):

i see

OpenStudy (anonymous):

because it gives a 2 (meaning it converges) with the absolute value on the series, while none of the other options do

OpenStudy (anonymous):

right?

OpenStudy (perl):

correct

OpenStudy (perl):

the other choices are what we call 'conditionally convergent' , they converge if you allow negative terms

OpenStudy (perl):

so it turns out that absolute convergence is the stronger condition. stronger in the sense that if you know a series is absolutely convergent, it is automatically conditionally convergent as well, i.e. you don't have to check conditional convergence. but the other direction is not true. a series that is conditionally convergent may or may not be absolutely convergent.

OpenStudy (perl):

theres a simple proof of this, but it escapes me at the moment

OpenStudy (perl):

$$ \Large \sum |a_n|~ \rm{converges}\Rightarrow \sum a_n~ converges $$

OpenStudy (anonymous):

damn, it gives me great honor to present you with a medal

OpenStudy (perl):

$$ \Large \sum a_n~ \rm{converges}\nRightarrow \sum |a_n|~ converges $$

OpenStudy (perl):

aww, thanks :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you really are deserving of your reputation perl! i also feel like ive been kissed by adriana grande,

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hahah that should be a meme -

OpenStudy (perl):

heh

OpenStudy (perl):

thanks again :)

OpenStudy (perl):

nice name by the way

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hey you think you could give a quick hint?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i need to find the 'center of the power series'

OpenStudy (anonymous):

know any widget i could use? wolfram doesnt seem to be doing any favors

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