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OpenStudy (mathmath333):

find the range of the function \(f\)

OpenStudy (mathmath333):

let \(\large \color{black}{\begin{align} f=\left\{\left(x,\ \dfrac{x^2}{1+x^2}\right):\ x\in \mathbb{R}\right\} \hspace{.33em}\\~\\ \end{align}}\) be a function from \(\mathbb{R}\) to \(\mathbb{R}\) .Determine the range of \(f\)

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

seems to me all real numbers?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh no

OpenStudy (anonymous):

a fraction is only 1 if the numerator is equal to the denominator

OpenStudy (welshfella):

no it cxannot have negative values

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and it is unlikely that \(x^2+1=x^2\)

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

oh miss reading the function

OpenStudy (anonymous):

also you notice that everything in sight is positive right? there is an actual way to do this

OpenStudy (anonymous):

or just wing it the least it can be is zero, since everything is positive unless x is zero and it cannot reach 1 since the numerator is smaller than the denominator

OpenStudy (anonymous):

making the range \[[0,1)\] otherwise you have to set \[y=\frac{x^2}{1+x^2}\] and solve for \(x\) which is a colossal pain

OpenStudy (mathmath333):

i was looking for a way which would be different from just observation

OpenStudy (anonymous):

there is nothing wrong with thinking, not matter what you math teacher tells you

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but yes, there is a way solve \[y=\frac{x^2}{1+x^2}\] for \(x\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you will get a quadratic equation in \(y\) you then take the discriminant and make sure it is greater than or equal to zero enjoy, it is a pain in the neck

OpenStudy (mathmath333):

i mean \(y(y-1)\geq 0\)

OpenStudy (mathmath333):

is that correct

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

is it not y(1-y)>=0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

looks right

OpenStudy (mathmath333):

ya this one ^

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i think if you solve for \(x\)you get \[x=\sqrt{\frac{y}{1-y}}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

domain of that one is \[[0,1)\] so range of your function is the same

OpenStudy (anonymous):

really i think this is a butt load more work, than necessary common sense often works in math too

OpenStudy (mathmath333):

but why this wont work \(y(1-y)>=0 \)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

why strictly greater than?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh i see you have \(\geq\)

OpenStudy (mathmath333):

it will be \(1\geq y\geq 0\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but that is not right, because \(\geq\) includes 1

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and there is no way for your function to be 1

OpenStudy (mathmath333):

thats why was asking why that method backstabbed

OpenStudy (anonymous):

whereas solving \[\frac{y}{1-y}\geq 0\] does not include 1

OpenStudy (mathmath333):

ok thnx

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok i see my mistake i mislead you

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you do not get a quadratic, you solve \[y=\frac{x^2}{1+x^2}\] \[yx^2+y=x^2\\ yx^2-x^2=-y\\ (y-1)x^2=-y\\ x^2=\frac{y}{1-y}\\ x=\sqrt{\frac{y}{1-y}}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

then solve \[\frac{y}{1-y}\geq0\] you get \[[0,1)\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sorry about that i could never win against a king's gambit either, not matter whether i accepted or declined

OpenStudy (mathmath333):

haha

OpenStudy (mathmath333):

i have good record against kings gambit by black

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