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OpenStudy (anonymous):

intergration problem

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

my firsr step is antderv right

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i have an idea (although i totally suck at these)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

it will be easier to integrate in terms of \(y\) not \(x\) so lets solve each of these for \(x\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the first one is \(x=y+1\) and the second is \(x=\frac{y^2-6}{2}\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

we also need to find the limits of integration did you find where they intersect?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh and to answer your question, no, the first step is not to find the anti derivative, the first step is to find the thing you need to integrate, both the integrand and the limits of integration THEN you can take the anti - derivative to compute the integral

OpenStudy (anonymous):

how to do that

OpenStudy (anonymous):

set them equal and solve

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[y=x-1,y^2=2x+6\] replace the \(y\) in the second equation by \(x-1\) and solve \[(x-1)^2=2x+6\] turns out you get an easy quadratic equation to solve (it factor, get integer solutions )

OpenStudy (anonymous):

that is if you want to do it by hand it if was me, i would cut to the chase http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=%28x-1%29^2%3D2x%2B6

OpenStudy (anonymous):

k so i get x^2-4x+8

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you get \(x=-1\) or \(x=5\) the points where they intersect are \((-1,-2)\) and \((5,4)\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hmm no i think if you do it by hand you get \[x^2-2x+1=2x+6\\ x^2-4x-5=0\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

o wow yea yea

OpenStudy (anonymous):

factors as\[(x-5)(x+1)=0\\ x=-1,x=5\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok then

OpenStudy (anonymous):

now this is a parabola that opens sideways so it will be easier to integrate wrt y not x

OpenStudy (anonymous):

here is a picture http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=+y%3Dx+-+1%2C+y^2%3D2x%2B6

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so if you want to integrate wrt y, you need to write each of these as a function of \(y\) i.e solve each for \(x\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

first one is \[x=y+1\] second is \[x=\frac{y^2-6}{2}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so far so good?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okey

OpenStudy (anonymous):

now if we turn it sideways we see the line is above the parabola the limits of integration in terms of y means we use the y values \[\int_{-2}^5y+1-(\frac{y^2-6}{2})dy\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

do some algebra first maybe, then compute that integral

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i have to take the antiderv right

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i would do the algebra first then take anti derivatives

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh u mean simplify

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oops \[\int_{-2}^5\left(\frac{-y^2}{2}+y+4\right)dy\]

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

seems good :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thanks !

OpenStudy (anonymous):

now take the anto right

OpenStudy (anonymous):

NOW take anti derivatives

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah i know you are dying to do it, do it now

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okey tge y2/2 is confusing

OpenStudy (anonymous):

would it be y3/6?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

yes! just don't forgot - sign

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[-\frac{y^2}{6}\] for the first term

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok as @xapproachesinfinity said "yes" only "no"

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh yea sorry

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the rest should be routine anti derivative is \[-\frac{y^2}{6}+\frac{y^2}{2}+4y\] plug in 5, plug in -2 and subtract if you do it right, you will get 18i think

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so i get 12.5 after simliy

OpenStudy (anonymous):

damn typo \[-\frac{y^3}{6}+\frac{y^2}{2}+4y\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i think ur right one my firends got 18 two

OpenStudy (anonymous):

me, i like to know what the answer is before i begin http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=+area+between+the+curves+y%3Dx+-+1%2C+y^2%3D2x%2B6

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok so i have more intergral problems but just much eaiser i am just stuck since i am new to all this so could u help me more?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok sure why not

OpenStudy (anonymous):

if i can i kind of suck at these though

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok give me 5 minutes i am finishing somthing

OpenStudy (anonymous):

kk

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lets see

OpenStudy (anonymous):

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