Find fog and gof and their domains for the pair of functions F(x)=2x^2+3 and g(x)=4x-5
(I have fog, I cannot figure out gof)
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OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
so first, what is g composed f?
OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
the function I mean,
OpenStudy (anonymous):
g should be \[2x^2+3\]
OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
that's what you have for f?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
g(x)=4x-5
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OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
ok, so I am asking, when you plug f into g, what is the resulting function?
OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
ie. \(g(f(x) ~or~ g ~o~ f\)
OpenStudy (kc_kennylau):
Just making things tidier for everyone:
\[\Large f(x)=2x^2+3\]\[\Large g(x)=4x-5\]\[\Large(f\circ g)(x) = 2(4x-5)^2+3\]\[\Large(g\circ f)(x) = 4(2x^2+3)-5\]
(Please correct me if I'm wrong)
OpenStudy (anonymous):
\[32x^2-80x+53\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
that was fog
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
i dont know what gof is...I need help with that I only know fog, which I just gave an answer of
OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
how did you get fog, what did you do? (gof is the same process)
OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
or ok, let's say let x=2, what would you do?
OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
you'd put a 2 everywhere you see an x right?
OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
so in the equation g(x) replace every x with f.
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OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
then replace every f with what f equals, it's just substitution
OpenStudy (anonymous):
I did \[fog=f(4x-5)\]
\[fog=2(4x-5)^2+3\]
which equals \[32x^2-80x+53\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
that answer is for fog and now I don't know how to do gof
OpenStudy (usukidoll):
for g o f you place your f(x) function into the g(x) function
OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
same exact way as above
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OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
you did it correctly
OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
its just g(f) instead of f(g)
OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
do you see what I mean?
OpenStudy (usukidoll):
some people use different terminology symbols... I don't use that
but I do use g o f a lot... read this from right to left... your f(x) function should be placed inside the g(x) function
OpenStudy (anonymous):
I did and it keeps telling me I'm wrong. This is how I would do it...
\[4(32x^2-80x+53)-5\]
which would give me
\[128x^2-320x+207\]
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OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
ah, you put the wrong function in
OpenStudy (anonymous):
how do I put it in :(
OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
you put your answer for part a in instead of doing the new problem
OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
you plugged f composed with g in instead of just f
OpenStudy (usukidoll):
do you see the x in g(x) = 4x- 5
replace that x in g(x) with that entire f(x) function
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OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
so what is f? Plug that in instead of your answer for part a, then I will double check it.
OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
you did set it up correctly, just misread your paper.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
ok so
\[g(x)=4(2x^2+3)-5\]
OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
much better :)
OpenStudy (usukidoll):
yes so all you have to do is distribute that 4 for 2x^2+3
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OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
go ahead, try and simplify
OpenStudy (anonymous):
final answer should be
\[8x^2+7\]
right?
OpenStudy (usukidoll):
we are multiplying
OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
well, how do you distribute the 4?
OpenStudy (usukidoll):
so what is 4 times 2x^2 and what is 4 times 3
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OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
so just remember, if you have \[a(c+b)=ac+ab\] You have to send the a to b and c
OpenStudy (anonymous):
8x^2+12
OpenStudy (anonymous):
\[8x^2+12x-5\]
OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
ok now that is what happens when you distribute correctly, now, you still had that - five hanging out
OpenStudy (usukidoll):
we don't need the x for the 12
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OpenStudy (usukidoll):
\[g(x)=8x^2+12-5\]
what is 12 - 5 ?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
so its \[8x^2+7\]
OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
yea
OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
You were right to begin with, I apologize
OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
I got lost in usuki's comments
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
Oh thanks...yeah I was confused that you guys said it was wrong haha
OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
yea, I'm sorry about that. I read the we are multip[lying and assumed you added, I didn't notice they come out the same. But anyways, does this make sense now?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Yeah, is that the final answer?
OpenStudy (usukidoll):
yeah
OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
well, yes and no
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OpenStudy (usukidoll):
how is this no?
OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
so that is the final answer for what is g composed f, but we are not just loooking for that
OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
now, we need to find their domain, for both bantaray
OpenStudy (anonymous):
we are looking for domains
OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
now, what does domain mean bant?
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OpenStudy (usukidoll):
oh geez total miss. . .
OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
I got this usuki, you can go
OpenStudy (anonymous):
the domain for fog is \[(-\infty,\infty)\]
OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
h/o I need to find what that was again haha
OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
sounds right though
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OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
yep, that's right
OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
now for g?
OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
side note, you can also say All real numbers
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Ok, I got the domains now...I figured them out really fast :) I think we are done
OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
yep, what did you get for g(f)?
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
I have one more question.....Would you mind staying to help me?
OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
can you pop open another question and tag me?
OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):
just close this one to make a new one. It's a bit of a long thread