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I need to simplify this equation to a+bi form.
(1/2(cos(72 degrees)+isin(72 degrees))^5
To solve I should do 1/2^5 and multiply 72 degrees by 5 right? Thanks for helping!
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you also have to take \(\left(\frac{1}{2}\right)^5\)
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
if by "simplify" you mean "evaluate the functions" then yes
OpenStudy (anonymous):
yup, that is what I meant
OpenStudy (anonymous):
@satellite73 Can you help me find the complex fifth roots of 5-5sqrt(3)*i?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
yeah first write
\[5-5\sqrt{3}i\] in trig form
do you now how to do that?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
r=sqrt((5)^2+(-5sqrt(3)^2)) for r
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
and -5sqrt(3)/5=tan(theta) for theta
OpenStudy (anonymous):
and then I make a rcis(theta)?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
@satellite73
OpenStudy (anonymous):
yeah \(r=\sqrt{a^2+b^2}\)
OpenStudy (anonymous):
from there what do I do?
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
did you find \(\theta\)?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
theta=-pi/3 Sorry for being a little late. My browser froze :(
OpenStudy (anonymous):
r=10
OpenStudy (anonymous):
yeah looks like you got it
OpenStudy (anonymous):
From there how do I fin the complex fifth roots?
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
find*
OpenStudy (anonymous):
divide the angle by 5
OpenStudy (anonymous):
-pi/15
OpenStudy (anonymous):
yeah
OpenStudy (anonymous):
do I get the 5th root of r?
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
just say it
\[\sqrt[5]{10}\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
you can't really evaluate any of this, just write it in trig form
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Is there more to it?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
It asks me for the complex fifth roots
OpenStudy (anonymous):
there are five of them
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
go around the circle again, then repeat
OpenStudy (anonymous):
so I add 2pik to the angle?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
right, the original angle
then divide by 5 again
OpenStudy (anonymous):
or else you can divide the circle in to 5 equal parts, with
\[-\frac{\pi}{15}\]as one of them
OpenStudy (anonymous):
each time I add +2pi, should I divide r by 5, or is that a one time thing?
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
add \(2\pi\) to \(-\frac{\pi}{3}\) then divide that one by \(5\)
OpenStudy (anonymous):
then repeat
OpenStudy (anonymous):
oh, does r change at all?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
no it is going to be \(\sqrt[5]{10}\) each time
OpenStudy (anonymous):
okay
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
oh wait, i think your \(r\) is wrong, check it again
OpenStudy (anonymous):
So would the first one be \[\sqrt[5]{10}(cis(\pi/3))?\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
oh, okay
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Are you sure, I got 10 again
OpenStudy (anonymous):
\[\sqrt{5^2+(5\sqrt{3})^2}\]
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
\[\sqrt{25+75}=10\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
you are right sorry
OpenStudy (anonymous):
it's okay, you're the one helping me :)
Would the first answer be \[\sqrt[5]{10}(cis(\pi/3))\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
@satellite73
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
it's fine he is still viewing the chat so just give him a minute or to
OpenStudy (anonymous):
oh sorry was away for a minute
OpenStudy (anonymous):
kool
OpenStudy (anonymous):
it's okay
OpenStudy (anonymous):
ok you found \(r=10,\theta =-\frac{\pi}{3}\)
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
Is the thing I wrote earlier correct?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
so
\[5-5\sqrt{3}i=10\left(\cos(-\frac{\pi}{3})+i\sin(-\frac{\pi}{3})\right)\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
you want the five fifth roots
OpenStudy (anonymous):
\[\sqrt[5]{10}(cis(\pi/3))?\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
one is
\[\sqrt[5]{10}\left(\cos(-\frac{\pi}{15})+i\sin(-\frac{\pi}{15})\right)\]
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
then add \(2\pi\) to \(-\frac{\pi}{3}\) to get \(\frac{5\pi}{3}\)
OpenStudy (anonymous):
oh yeah , what you said
OpenStudy (anonymous):
divide by 5 and the next one is
\[\sqrt[5]{10}\left(\cos(\frac{\pi}{3})+i\sin(\frac{\pi}{3})\right)\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
without adding 2pi?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
not sure what you mean
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
you divided without adding 2pik where k=1
OpenStudy (anonymous):
to theta
OpenStudy (anonymous):
we now have two fifth roots (3 more to go) one is \[\sqrt[5]{10}\left(\cos(-\frac{\pi}{15})+i\sin(-\frac{\pi}{15})\right)\] and the other is \[\sqrt[5]{10}\left(\cos(\frac{\pi}{3})+i\sin(\frac{\pi}{3})\right)\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
So I can +4pi and divide by 5 for another one?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
oh no we did add \(2\pi\) to the original angle of \(-\frac{\pi}{3}\) to get \(\frac{5\pi}{3}\) then we divided that one by 5 to get \(\frac{\pi}{3}\)
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
yeah
OpenStudy (anonymous):
or add \(2\pi\) to \(\frac{5\pi}{3}\) same thing
OpenStudy (anonymous):
when you add you get \(\frac{11\pi}{3}\) divide that by 5 and get \(\frac{11\pi}{15}\) for the third root
OpenStudy (anonymous):
oh kk
OpenStudy (anonymous):
and 2pi+11pi/15
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
lather, rinse, repeat
OpenStudy (anonymous):
oh no careful!
OpenStudy (anonymous):
don't add \(2\pi\) to \(\frac{11\pi}{15}\) add it to \(\frac{11\pi}{3}\)
OpenStudy (anonymous):
oh right, my bad
OpenStudy (anonymous):
hold on a second, it is not a mystery why you are doing this
both sine and cosine are periodic with period \(2\pi\)
that means the angle is NOT unique
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
so all the original numbers are the same
\[5-5\sqrt{3}i=10(\cos(-\frac{\pi}{3})+i\sin(-\frac{\pi}{3}))=10(\cos(\frac{5\pi}{3})+i\sin(\frac{5\pi}{3}))=...\] then are all equal
OpenStudy (anonymous):
you are just expressing the original number in trig form with different values of \(\theta\)
then you divide each of them by 5 to get the different fifth roots
OpenStudy (anonymous):
yup, so I just continue doing what we were just doing?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
yes
OpenStudy (anonymous):
So the theta of the roots would be -pi/15, pi/3, 11pi/15, 17pi/15, and 23pi/15?
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