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OpenStudy (mathmath333):

soft question

OpenStudy (mathmath333):

if \(y=\log x,\ \{x,y\}\in \mathbb{R}\) can \(x\) be \(0\) or \(x<0\)

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

no! e^y=0???? can you find such number that goes with that

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

or any base actually b^a=0!!

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

x can be only >0

OpenStudy (mathmath333):

and what about \(x<0\)

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

the same reason goes for x<0 e^y is always positive thus log x for x>0

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

the logarithm function is defined for positive numbers only, so x can not be < 0

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

this restrictions are there for the bond to exp

OpenStudy (mathmath333):

ok thanks

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

:)

OpenStudy (mathmath333):

by the way is there a logarithm for negative numbers

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

there is only one possibility that a power result in zero that is the case 0^0 but that is a calculus problem hehe

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

it is not quite zero but not 1 either!

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

no, there is not a logarithm of negative number

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

you mean log base negative ?

OpenStudy (mathmath333):

and what about complex numbers

OpenStudy (mathmath333):

i mean where x can be taken negative

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

no cannot x>0 always

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

yes! I think that the logarithm of a complex number is defined

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

in complex theory, yes there are some stuff of that sort:) i didn't take complex analysis yet but i do believe they do some kind of tricks around that

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

but logs take multiple values in some way! if we allow it to be complex function

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

if we define a complex number like this: \[\Large z = \rho {e^{i\theta }}\] then the logarithmic function is: \[\Large f\left( z \right) = \ln z = \ln \rho + i\theta \]

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

where the subsequent additional contition holds: \[\Large 0 \leqslant \theta < 2\pi \]

OpenStudy (xapproachesinfinity):

it is a whole other interesting place :) complex numbers tend to solve such problem with some good tricks

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

that's right! @xapproachesinfinity

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