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OpenStudy (sloppycanada):

I'm so confused on this, I'm not sure what I'm supposed to use for any of this, I don't know the common denominator or anything. Find the 6th term of the sequence with t1 = -4 and tn = 5tn-1. http://imgur.com/BaADfyq

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

start with \(-4\), and keep multiplying by \(5\) to get the next term.

OpenStudy (sloppycanada):

So T6 is -62,500?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

first term, \(\large t_1 ~=~-4\) second term, \(\large t_2 ~=~-4*5 = -20\) third term, \(\large t_3 ~=~-20*5 = -100\) keep going till the 6th term

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

-62,500 is wrong

OpenStudy (sloppycanada):

Sorry, I did too many of them. -2500.

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

show me the work instead

OpenStudy (sloppycanada):

T4 = -100 x 5 = -500 T5 = -500 x 5 = -2500 T6 = -2500 x 5 = -12500

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Good!

OpenStudy (sloppycanada):

And then how do I go about finding the sum of an infinite series?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

look at the terms : \[-4,~~-20,~~-100,~~-500,~~-2500,~~ \ldots\] what do you notice ? do they seem to converge to some number ?

OpenStudy (sloppycanada):

You could go on for ever without getting a sum.

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Yes, so we say the "sequence doesn't converge" and the infinite sum doesn't exist

OpenStudy (sloppycanada):

So for an equation like this - Find the sum of the infinite series 3 + 1.2 + 0.48 + 0.192 + ...if it exists. All I would do is use the formula to find the equation of the infinite series?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

what kind of series is it, geometric/arithmetic ?

OpenStudy (sloppycanada):

Geometric?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

there is a nice criterion for testing convergence of geometric series, you simply look at the common ratio

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

whats the common ratio of given series ?

OpenStudy (sloppycanada):

The equation is tn/(tn-1)

OpenStudy (sloppycanada):

Common ratio is 2.5

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

yes work it common ratio = (next term)/(present term)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

looks you have worked it in reverse : (present term)/(next term)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

try again

OpenStudy (sloppycanada):

.4?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

yes common ratio = 0.4 which is between -1 and 1 so the given series conveges

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

A geometric series converges if the common ratio is between -1 and 1

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

use infinite sum formula to find the sum

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

do you have the formula wid u ?

OpenStudy (sloppycanada):

S(infinite) = 3/t-.4

OpenStudy (sloppycanada):

I have it in my notes

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\[\large S_{\infty} ~=~\dfrac{t_1}{1-r}\]

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\[\large S_{\infty} ~=~\dfrac{3}{1-0.4}\]

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

simplify

OpenStudy (sloppycanada):

5?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Yes!

OpenStudy (sloppycanada):

I have three more if you have time?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

okay il try, post

OpenStudy (sloppycanada):

http://gyazo.com/f47f214fcdb2adb56c90ca6794e3f48d

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Firs test if the series converges by finding the common ratio

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

whats the common ratio ?

OpenStudy (sloppycanada):

1.33?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Yes, which is "not" in between -1 and 1 so the series does not converge.

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

we say the sum does not exist

OpenStudy (sloppycanada):

Okay so the answer would be "No solution"

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

As you can see, the common ratio decides whether an infinite converges to some number, or if it diverges

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Answer would be "does not converge"

OpenStudy (sloppycanada):

If it converges then it has a sum, if it does not converge there is not really a solution?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

yes, do you see why the common ratio of 1.33 gives a diverging sum ?

OpenStudy (sloppycanada):

Because it's larger then 1? and not between that -1 and 1

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Yes, when you multiply the first term by 1.33, you get a bigger next term; the terms keep growing and the sum wont reach a specific number

OpenStudy (sloppycanada):

So for this problem - http://gyazo.com/15138c898cca305ec43a79e298d55821 The answer would be .498

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

how did u get 0.498 ?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

im asking because im getting a more nice looking number : 0.5

OpenStudy (sloppycanada):

I didn't round.

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

me neither could you show ur work please

OpenStudy (sloppycanada):

\[S \infty = \frac{ 1 }{ 3 }\div 1-.33\]

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Ahh okay, you're rounding 1/3 to 0.33

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

i worked it like this : \[\large S_{\infty}~=~\dfrac{1/3}{1-1/3} = \dfrac{1}{3-1}=\dfrac{1}{2}=0.5\]

OpenStudy (sloppycanada):

I'm not sure why I changed from a fraction to a decimal. Fractions are more precise aren't they?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Yep Fractions are exact decimals are not so exact when you get a repeating decimal

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

1/2 = 0.5 both are exact

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

1/3 = 0.33333333333333333333333333... clearly the decimal wont be exact because you can't write out infinitely many 3's

OpenStudy (sloppycanada):

Okay, last one - http://gyazo.com/50d340d91d94093d361677d900fa46ee Answer is 1.

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OpenStudy (sloppycanada):

Ah hah! Thank you!

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OpenStudy (sloppycanada):

Finding the sum of an geometric Find S12 for the series 1 + 2 + 4 + 8 +... like this is 49,140

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

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ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

how did u get 49.140 ?

OpenStudy (sloppycanada):

Sorry it should be 8,190. 2((1-2^12)/(1-2)) = 8190

OpenStudy (sloppycanada):

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