Im trying to derive the following... ((4x+2)^2 - 4) / (x+1) And I use quotient rule to get...
\[\frac{ 8(4x+2)(x+1) - (4x+2)^2 -4 }{ (x+1)^2 }\]
But now I need help with simplification
you are correct so far
well first expand those expressions in parentheses
Be sure you multiply out the numerator first and then simplify that. You will it cancel x+1 in the denominator and left with something simple.
well then factor the numerator (4x + 2){8(x + 1) -(4x +2)+4)} simplify the part inside { }
Oh alright
the inside would be 4x+10 right?
that's what I got
then do i expand those 2 brackets?
well it really depends... as the factored numerator is a correct solution... I'd leave it that way to avoid errors... but it really depends on what the question as for
it just asks for the derivative and apparently the answer is 16 but i can't get that
16?
yes
well there must be a condition and you have been given a value of x to substitute the question may ask for the slope of the curve at x = -2 or something like that
yep
Nope none of that
i think its 16 if x = 1 - if my simplification is correct
are you asked to find f '(1) or anything like that
f'(x) is a function of x
No xD lol
do you think it may be wrong?
then the answer cant be 16
yes - something is wrong...
well if you are asked for the derivative you have it correct. if you are asked to find the slope at x = 1 or f'(1) then you would need a numeric answer
u forget to take the derivative of the denominator that the problem here
Ohh i get it! I have to simplify the numerator before even differentiating it! Cause that way I get f(x) = 16x and f'(x) = 16
the derivative of the denominator is 1
yes thats right
\[f(x) = \frac{ 16x^2+16x+4-4 }{ (x+1) } = \frac{ 16x(x+1) }{ (x+1) } = 16x\]
Perfect! $$ f(x)=\cfrac{(4x+2)^2 - 4}{x+1}=\cfrac{16x^2+16x+4-4}{x+1}=\cfrac{16x(x+1)}{x+1}\\ $$ Now you see it: \(f'(x)=16\)
Yeah exactly!! Thanks so much for the help! :D
oh yes!!!! i missed that
what a crafty question!
Lol i know right! XD
well spotted
that function is a 'disguised' straight line with a slope of 16
Ahahaha xD yep!
you should be able to get 16 using the quotient rule but i didn't . There must have been an error in my work.
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