find D.E x^2/a^2+y^2/b^2=1 ans. xyy''+xy'^2=yy'
diff. twice and eliminate a^2 and b^2 from three equations.
how @surjithayer
help please
Have you used the surjithayer's hint and differentiated twice ?
yeah
show you work please
wait
number 14
whats the derivative of \(\dfrac{x^2}{a^2}\) with respect to \(x\) ?
but i think , may solution is not right
yes
Keep in mind, \(a\) and \(b\) are constants here
\[\dfrac{x^2}{a^2}+\dfrac{y^2}{b^2}=1\tag{1}\] differentiating implicitly with respect to \(x\) gives \[\dfrac{2x}{a^2} + \dfrac{2yy'}{b^2} = 0\tag{2}\] yes ?
okay :)
but , i did it first , but my answer was not right
your work in that picture is wrong you're not treating a^2 as constant, instead trying to differentiate it and writing 2a.. which is wrong
can you help please
\[\dfrac{x^2}{a^2}+\dfrac{y^2}{b^2}=1\tag{1}\] differentiating implicitly with respect to \(x\) gives \[\dfrac{2x}{a^2} + \dfrac{2yy'}{b^2} = 0 \implies a^2 = -\dfrac{b^2x}{yy'} \] Plug this in first equation and get \[\dfrac{x^2}{-b^2x/(yy')}+\dfrac{y^2}{b^2}=1 \] \[\implies -xyy' +y^2 = b^2 \tag{2}\] differentiate this again and you're done!
@ganeshie8 gets :)) thank you very much :))
yw, are you able to differentiate it again and arrive at the answer ?
@ganeshie8 im very confused
remember product rule ?
yeah i remember
how about the b^2 ?
b^2 is just a constant, like, 3^2 or 5^2
it doesn't change, so the derivative is 0
\[-x y y'' . -1 + x y^2.y'=b^2\]
\[\dfrac{x^2}{a^2}+\dfrac{y^2}{b^2}=1\tag{1}\] differentiating implicitly with respect to \(x\) gives \[\dfrac{2x}{a^2} + \dfrac{2yy'}{b^2} = 0 \implies a^2 = -\dfrac{b^2x}{yy'} \] Plug this in first equation and get \[\dfrac{x^2}{-b^2x/(yy')}+\dfrac{y^2}{b^2}=1 \] \[\implies -xyy' +y^2 = b^2 \tag{2}\] differentiating w.r.t \(x\) again \[-(yy' +y'xy' + y''xy) + 2yy'= 0\] \[yy' = xyy'' + x{y'}^2\]
Recall below product rules \[\left(f(x)*g(x)\right)' = f'(x)g(x) + f(x)g'(x)\] \[\left(f(x)*g(x)*h(x)\right)' = f'(x)g(x)h(x) + f(x)g'(x)h(x) + f(x)g(x)h'(x)\]
@ganeshie8 i got the answer :))))
how about x^2+axy+bx+c=0
Give it a try first
i have a answer
@ganeshie8 number 11
Looks you forgot to use product rule here ? |dw:1436688898948:dw|
isn't that we have to find the second and third derivatives and then plug them back into the equation to check if the equation we are given (that ans. thing) holds true?
@ganeshie8
x and y's are variables treat a b c as constants which when the derivative is taken it goes to 0
ai derivative of x is 1 = a (1) ?
@UsukiDoll this is like constructing the differential equation from the given general solution by eliminating the arbitrary constants
oh I see so we're not verifying... we're finding a DE
yeah we can think of the equations of given ellipses/parabolas as general solutions
yeah , were finding D.E
@jacalneaila did you find ur mistake in #11 ?
yeah, i try to solve ut again , but may answer is different now :(
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show ur work
wait , i dont have a cellphone
#11 should be fairly simple compared to the earlier one
\[ax+yy'+a(1)? \]
@ganeshie8
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