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OpenStudy (anonymous):

What is the standard form of the equation for this circle?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@hotguy @Vocaloid @ any one who can help me

OpenStudy (anonymous):

The standard form of a circle is \((x-h)^2+(y-k)^2=r^2\) where the center of the circle is \((h, k)\) and \(r\) is the radius. Can you take it from there?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay so then that would mean it is (x-4)^2 + (y+5)^2 = 5.5^2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yup. Great job!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thanks!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

np :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@Calcmathlete could you help me with another question?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Sure

OpenStudy (anonymous):

The equation of a circle is x2 + y2 + Cx + Dy + E = 0. If the radius of the circle is decreased without changing the coordinates of the center point, how are the coefficients C, D, and E affected? i dont get how to work with circles

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Do you know how to complete the square?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ok, completing the square is kind of a technique that is similar to factoring (somewhat). It's based on the formula \[(a\pm b)^2=a^2\pm2ab+b^2\] The idea is that you're trying to get a quadratic into a form that can become a perfect square. Before we work on your question, let's work with the idea first.\[x^2-4x+5=10\] Now, of course, the easiest thing would be to factor, but let's try completing the square instead.\[x^2-4x+\_\_=5\] You're trying to find the number that should go there to make it a perfect square trinomial.\[x^2-4x\color{red}{+4}=5\color{red}{+4}\]We added 4 on the left side to make it the perfect square trinomial (this is to make it fit the form above). However, to balance the equation, we need to add 4 to the right side as well.\[(x-2)^2=9\]That is called completing the square. Does that make sense so far?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

kind of, yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay now what?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Alright, so what we need to do is complete the square for the equation of the circle above. \[x^2+y^2+Cx+Dy+E=0\]\[(x^2+Cx+\_\_)+(y^2+Dy+\_\_)=-E\]\[\left(x^2+Cx+\left(\frac{C}{2}\right)^2\right)+\left(y^2+Dy+\left(\frac D2\right)^2\right)=-E+\left(\frac C2\right)^2+\left(\frac D2\right)^2\]\[\left(x+\frac C2\right)^2+\left(y+\frac D2\right)^2=-E+\left(\frac C2\right)^2+\left(\frac D2\right)^2\]This should look familiar from the form above.\[(x-h)^2+(y-k)^2=r^2\]where \(h=-\frac C2\), \(k=-\frac D2\), \(r^2=-E+\left(\frac C2\right)^2+\left(\frac D2\right)^2\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

If you're not quite 100% on completing the square yet, ^ is going to be a bit hard to follow.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay i kinda follow its a bit hazy but its there

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Alright, I'll go over completing the square in a sec again, but to finish up your question, the variables that affect the center of the circle are C and D. Your question asked that if r decreased, how would C, D, E be affected if the center of the circle didn't change. So, since the center didn't move, C and D stay constant. However, E needs to increase for the radius to decrease. Does that make sense? I'll go back to completing the square after this.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay yeah that does

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the only problem is thats not an answer

OpenStudy (anonymous):

What is the answer according to your source?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

these are our options

OpenStudy (anonymous):

With the way the question is written, I don't think any of the choices are correct. Are you sure that's the exact wording of the question?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah i copy and paste it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I just double checked everything on my paper. I think their question is just straight up wrong. If it were - E or something instead of + E, then the choice would be on there. I'd just go with the last option since it's the closest one, but...wow...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i chose e

OpenStudy (anonymous):

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=x%5E2%2By%5E2%2B6x%2B6y%2B5%3D0 http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=x%5E2%2By%5E2%2B6x%2B6y%2B10%3D0 Also, ^ that is why I'm sure that their question is flawed.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

The +10 one is clearly smaller than the +5 one, and the centers stayed the same.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Sorry for all the confusion.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

its okay thanks tho

OpenStudy (anonymous):

np

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