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OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

Help with logarithims

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

For the first one would you just fill in x for 0?

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

to which we would get log(10)10+3

OpenStudy (freckles):

yes replace x with 0

OpenStudy (freckles):

\[\log_a(a)=1 \text{ where } a \in (0,1) \cup (1,\infty)\]

OpenStudy (freckles):

since a^1 is a

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

I am confused are you saying log10(10)=1?

OpenStudy (freckles):

yes \[10 \in (1,\infty) \\ \text{ so } 10 \in (0,1) \cup (1,\infty) \\ \text{ so yes } \log_{10}(10)=1 \]

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

so like then we just add 3? so f(0)=4?

OpenStudy (freckles):

since 10^1=10

OpenStudy (freckles):

yep

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

and for the second one would you just divide log(10)20/log(10)3

OpenStudy (freckles):

yes

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

so log(3)20=x so you just seperate? and then they both have the common log(10)? im trying to udnerstand why

OpenStudy (freckles):

you can solve the equation by first taking log_10 of both sides

OpenStudy (freckles):

\[\log_{10}(20)=\log_{10}(3^x) \\ \log_{10}(20)=x \log_{10}(3) \text{ by power rule } \]

OpenStudy (freckles):

then divide both sides be log_10(3)

OpenStudy (darkbluechocobo):

Alrights Thank you for clearing that up. Egh last night of cramming for this test

OpenStudy (freckles):

\[\frac{\log_{10}(20)}{\log_{10}(3)}=\frac{x \log_{10}(3)}{\log_{10}(3)} \\ \frac{\log_{10}(20)}{\log_{10}(3)}=x\]

OpenStudy (freckles):

you could have chosen any log base as long as that base is a number between 0 and 1 exclusive or between 1 and infinity exclusive

OpenStudy (freckles):

maybe they want you to express in base 5 log well take log_5( ) of both side instead

OpenStudy (freckles):

just doing an example... \[20=3^x \\ \log_5(20)=\log_5(3^x) \\ \log_5(20)=x \log_5(3) \\ \frac{\log_5(20)}{\log_5(3)}=x\]

OpenStudy (freckles):

notice that answer could be expressed as: \[x=\frac{\log_a(20)}{\log_a(3)} \text{ where } a \in (0,1) \cup (1,\infty)\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

can we say 3^x=20?

OpenStudy (freckles):

yes equality is symmetrical if a=b then b=a

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the can we say x=log3(20)?

OpenStudy (freckles):

yes my answer will also conclude that if you put a as 3 \[x=\frac{\log_3(20)}{\log_3(3)}=\frac{\log_3(20)}{1}=\log_3(20)\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

can't we say x as a decimal?

OpenStudy (freckles):

you mean approximate x ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yep

OpenStudy (anonymous):

3^1=3 3^2=9 3^3=27 so x must be between 2 and three.... and so on?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

But if we are asked to find x for 4 decimal places can we find it? :(

OpenStudy (freckles):

calculator would probably be your friend

OpenStudy (anonymous):

can we find it without using it?

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