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rvc (rvc):

Please help. Separate the following complex number into real and imaginary parts.

rvc (rvc):

\[\log_{1-i}(1+i) \]

OpenStudy (jhannybean):

property of logs?

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

try to change the base please

rvc (rvc):

\[\frac{\log(1+i)}{log(1-i)}\]

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

here is the formula for base change: \[\Large {\log _{1 - i}}x = \frac{{{{\log }_e}x}}{{{{\log }_e}\left( {1 - i} \right)}}\]

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

if we apply my formula above, when x= 1+i, we will get the requested answer

rvc (rvc):

? wait im confused

rvc (rvc):

what formula?

rvc (rvc):

please explain

rvc (rvc):

yes i wrote the same above

hartnn (hartnn):

the thing is its not separated into real and imaginary parts yet

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\[\log_{1-i}(1+i) = \dfrac{\log re^{ix}}{\log re^{-ix}} = \dfrac{\log r + ix}{\log r-ix}\] do the conjugate thingy next

rvc (rvc):

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rvc (rvc):

can i apply that formula?

hartnn (hartnn):

you can apply but then you'll need to do that conjugate thingy which will be complicated with your formula. instead try what ganeshie has suggested.

rvc (rvc):

after the conversion into polar form what did ganeshie did further

hartnn (hartnn):

know about "rationalizing the denominator" approach? same thing can be done to "real"ize the denominator. multiply numerator and denominator by conjugate of denominator

rvc (rvc):

im not getting that @hartnn :(

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

recall the logarithm properties \[\log ab = \log a+\log b\] and \[\log a^b = b\log a\]

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\[\log_{1-i}(1+i) = \dfrac{\log re^{ix}}{\log re^{-ix}} = \dfrac{\log r+\log e^{ix}}{\log r+\log e^{-ix}} = \dfrac{\log r + ix}{\log r-ix}\] how about now ?

rvc (rvc):

i did understand you step till\[\rm \frac{ log~re^{ix} }{ log~re^{-ix} }\]

rvc (rvc):

your*

rvc (rvc):

got it :) @ganeshie8

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

notice that \(\log \color{red}{r}e^{ix}\) is in form \(\log \color{red}{a}b\)

rvc (rvc):

yep yep after that?

hartnn (hartnn):

multiply numerator and denominator by log r + ix denominator will be of the form (p+iq)(p-iq) = p^2 +q^2

rvc (rvc):

rvc (rvc):

thanks all :)

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