please help @zzrock3r
@zzr0ck3r
Dully noted, there is no question here.
hmmm -.- what did you do to the question! put your pencils up!
lol
Okay so that is password protected.
whats the password?!
help us. help you!
i need helo on those questions 2,3,4 and the password is osho
ow! my head HuRtS! i dont know.. sorry
@pooja195
@zzr0ck3r
I am not sure how to open that, nor do I really want to. But just ask the question here.
what have i done wrong ? i am so sorry
?
i know you are angry
please just forgive .
lol why would I be angry?
I just said to ask the question :)
the question is in the file ,
and the password is osho
I don't know how to open the file, and I don't know what the file is, and I don't like opening things when I don't know where they come from. If it is a math question, there is no reason you can't post it here?
It does not ask for a password when I try and open it, it says its corrupt or protected, but there is no place for a password.
(a) Let X ε Rn. Show that the set B(X, ε ) is open. (b) Let X be a complete metric space and {On} is countable collection of dense open subset of X. Show that On is not empty.
@zzr0ck3r
What is your definition of open?
2)Let (X, d) and (Y, d) be metric spaces and f a mapping of X into Y. Let τ1 and τ2 be the topologies determined by d and d1 respectively. Then f(X, τ) (y, τ) is continuous if and only if ; that is if x1, x2, . . . , xn, . . . , is a sequence of points in (X, d) converging to x, show that the sequence of points f(x1), f(x2), . . . , f(xn), . . . in (Y, d) converges to x.
an open interval is an open set. interval without its boundary points
How do you define a boundary point?
we must show that your ball does not contain any boundary points
What would it mean if it did?
boundary point to me is the being or the end of a thing . in inequality, it is denoted by < or =, and > or = , or [ ]
well you are kind of defining what we are asked to prove.
A point \(x\) is a boundary point for set \(A\) if \(\forall\) \(\delta>0\) we have \(B_{\delta}(x)\cap A\ne \emptyset\) and \(B_{\delta}(x)\cap A^C\ne \emptyset\)
Does this make sense? This says for any neighborhood of \(x\) we have a point in A and a point out of A.
yes
but should it be out of a?
Well what you want to show is that \(X\) contains non of its boundary points. So suppose it does. What does that mean?
it means it is close
right?
brb I need to take my wife to a party. I might be half hour or so.
Its only closed if it contains all of them. Suppose it contains one, then by the def I gave you, what does that mean?
it means it is have open and half close
what is?
I am here now.
Suppose to the contrary that \(B(x, \epsilon)\) contains one of its boundary points, lets call it \(a\). Then \(a\in B(x,\epsilon)\). Now consider \(\delta=\min(d(a, x), d(a, \epsilon))\). Then \(B(a, \delta)\subseteq B(x, \epsilon)\) contradicting the assumption that \(x\) was a boundary point.
Thus \(B(x, \epsilon)\) is open because it does NOT contain any of it's boundary points.
What does it mean for a metric to generate a topology?
For you to understand the second question. You need to know what a metric space is and what does it mean to generate a topology from a metric, in order to understand that you will need to understand what a topology is, and what a basis and sub basis are for a topological space and what it means to be an arbitrary union, in order to understand that you will need to understand what a ray is. Then you will need to know what it means for a sequence of points in some product space to converge, and you must understand the metric definition of continuity, which means you must understand a metric. Do you understand all of these things?
i know a bit of them but not that good at it
Feel free to ask me anything
5(a) Prove that for any y, z ε , max(y, z) = ½[y + z+ |y-z|], min(y, z) = ½[y + z- |y-z|]. can you try to prove that for me ?
@zzr0ck3r
any \(y,z\in?\)
of R
Suppose w.l.o.g. that \(x<y\). Then \[\max(x,y) = y = \dfrac{x}{2}+\dfrac{y}{2}-\dfrac{x}{2}+\dfrac{y}{2}=\dfrac{1}{2}[x+y-x+y]=\dfrac{1}{2}[x+y+|y-x|]\] Similarly for \(\min\)
now you write up a similar proof for the min case, and show it here.
ok but please just help me so that i don't do any errors
but sir, why did you use x,y. thought the given function is y,z e R
@zzr0ck3r
The fact that you don't know that it does not matter if I call it \(z\) or \(x\) really scares me and again begs the question. What are you doing?
i am trying to know what you did
please see the complete solution @GIL.ojei
by definition of absolute value, we can write this: \[\Large \begin{gathered} y \geqslant z, \Rightarrow \left| {y - z} \right| = y - z \hfill \\ \hfill \\ y \leqslant z \Rightarrow \left| {y - z} \right| = - \left( {y - z} \right) = - y + z \hfill \\ \end{gathered} \]
furthermore, those subsequent expressions, namely "max" and "min" are defined for all elements of R, so there is no need for further restrictions.
as I said before, we have to distinguish two cases, since R is a totally ordered set. First case: \[y \geqslant z\]
then \[y - z \geqslant 0\], so by definition of absolute value, we get: \[\left| {y - z} \right| = y - z\]
yes, i know that is true
then I can replace \[\left| {y - z} \right|\] with \[y - z\]
yes
so I can write this: \[\max \left( {y,z} \right) = \frac{1}{2}\left\{ {y + z + \left| {y - z} \right|} \right\} = \frac{1}{2}\left\{ {y + z + y - z} \right\} = \frac{{2y}}{2} = y\]
yes
furthermore I can write this: \[\begin{gathered} \min \left( {y,z} \right) = \frac{1}{2}\left\{ {y + z - \left| {y - z} \right|} \right\} = \frac{1}{2}\left\{ {y + z - \left( {y - z} \right)} \right\} = \hfill \\ \hfill \\ = \frac{1}{2}\left\{ {y + z - y + z} \right\} = \frac{{2z}}{2} = z \hfill \\ \end{gathered} \]
now we have to consider the other case, namely: \[y \leqslant z\]
by definition of absolute value, we have: \[y - z \leqslant 0 \Rightarrow \left| {y - z} \right| = - \left( {y - z} \right) = - y + z\]
ok. but i thought you have applied that already
no, since in this case is y-z less or equal to zero, whereas in the first case is y-z greater or equal to zero
in other words, in this second case, we can replace: \[\left| {y - z} \right|\] with: \[ - y + z\]
are you saying that we ought to have four proves?
and then we can write this: \[\begin{gathered} \max \left( {y,z} \right) = \frac{1}{2}\left\{ {y + z + \left| {y - z} \right|} \right\} = \frac{1}{2}\left\{ {y + z + \left( { - y + z} \right)} \right\} = \hfill \\ \hfill \\ = \frac{1}{2}\left\{ {y + z - y + z} \right\} = \frac{{2z}}{2} = z \hfill \\ \hfill \\ \min \left( {y,z} \right) = \frac{1}{2}\left\{ {y + z - \left| {y - z} \right|} \right\} = \frac{1}{2}\left\{ {y + z - \left( { - y + z} \right)} \right\} = \hfill \\ \hfill \\ = \frac{1}{2}\left\{ {y + z + y - z} \right\} = \frac{{2y}}{2} = y \hfill \\ \end{gathered} \]
no, I say that we have to prove your statement for two different cases for value of y-z
that's all!
which is the main prove ?
because all you stated are corect
ok. now i understand sir
:)
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