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OpenStudy (mimi_x3):

help pls...i have no clue about this course

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I can't open it, seems I need a proxy

OpenStudy (mimi_x3):

:|

OpenStudy (mimi_x3):

give me a sec

OpenStudy (mimi_x3):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Sure you know that you need a substitution, right?

OpenStudy (mimi_x3):

what substitution

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sub \(y_1=f(x_1, x_2)\) and \(y_2=g(x_1, x_2)\) in a way that first two equations turn into second system in terms of \(y\)

OpenStudy (mimi_x3):

I really don't know...can you please elaborate

OpenStudy (mimi_x3):

I can't find anything related to this on google :/

OpenStudy (anonymous):

let \(y_1=x_1\) and \(y_2=x_1+x_2\) see what happens

OpenStudy (mimi_x3):

do i sub it into x dot?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sry, I was out, see for example\[\dot{y_1}=\dot{x_1}=x_1+x_2=y_2\]Now you calculate \(\dot{y_2}\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Hey dont overthink it, this is just some algebraic manipulation, Its not weird

OpenStudy (mimi_x3):

I don't get it why does y dot = x dot?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Its a dynamical system, dot is "derivative with respect to time" here

OpenStudy (mimi_x3):

dx/dt ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

exactly

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Now, what about \(\dot{y_2}\) ?

OpenStudy (mimi_x3):

I don't get how the x is related to the y?

OpenStudy (usukidoll):

the dot isn't used that much , but it's another way of saying first derivative for a single dot 2nd derivative for a double dot.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

That depends on how we define y in terms of x, we do this sub to get a simpler form of equations that are easy to interpret physically

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Think of it like this, you have a system of differential equations in x_1 and x_2 and you wanna solve it, you do a sub to get a simpler form and to solve it more easily

OpenStudy (anonymous):

And x is not related to y, we relate it to y :)

OpenStudy (mimi_x3):

i don't get it y dot = -(2x + x)

OpenStudy (mimi_x3):

y dot = -(2x_1+x_2)

OpenStudy (mimi_x3):

yeah my bad

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok, let me explain it step by step

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you have these system of equations:\[\dot{x_1}=x_1+x_2 \]\[\dot{x_2}=-2x_1-x_2\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Now I do a sub in the form \(y_1=x_1\) and \(y_2=x_1+x_2\), lets see what happens

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\dot{y_1}=\dot{x_1}=x_1+x_2=y_2\]\[\dot{y_2}=\dot{x_1}+\dot{x_2}=x_1+x_2-2x_1-x_2=-x_1=-y_1\]

OpenStudy (mimi_x3):

how would you know what sub to do

OpenStudy (anonymous):

that's just like integrals, how do you solve integrals with u-sub?

OpenStudy (mimi_x3):

by looking

OpenStudy (mimi_x3):

thanks

OpenStudy (anonymous):

No problem, skill develops with practice and experience

OpenStudy (jack1):

nice

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