a rational number and an irrational number that are between 7.7 and 7.9. Include the decimal approximation of the irrational number to the nearest hundredth.
Do you know what rational and irrational numbers are/
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no
its an essay question
rational numbers: \( \color{black}{{\bf ...}~~-4,~~-3,~~-2,~~-1,~~~~0,~~~~1,~~~~2,~~~~3,~~~~4}\) Also it can be a fraction \( \color{black}{3/5,~~~-1/9,~~~~10/7,~~~~~3/9,~~~~1000/81}\) (and so on many other examples...) Also it can be a terminating decimal, or a repeating decimal (because they are technically fractions)
if you see: Negative or positive, --- number or fraction, or a decimal, (decimal which terminanting or repeating, BUT NOT some decimal without a pattern) then what you see is a rational number
Find a rational number and an irrational number that are between 7.7 and 7.9. Include the decimal approximation of the irrational number to the nearest hundredth.
Also \(\sqrt{4}\) is a rational number because, really \(\sqrt{4}=2\) and 2 is rational. And any root that simplifies to a rational is a rational number. (this is all for rational numbers)
I am giving you the definitions neccesary.
Now and irrational numbers Roots: like \(\sqrt{3}\) , \(\sqrt[6]{16}\), \(\sqrt{98}\) and other roots that don't simplify to a rational number. Also, logarithms if they don't simplify to rational number. Like \(\ln(2),~~\log_{3}(4),~~~\log_{18}(71)\) and others Also, special constant like \( \color{black}{\psi,~e,~\pi~...}\)
irrational number is also something like \(4{\bf .}2946188294621536724111...\)
where the decomal is not repeating or terminating
Ok, got the definitions of rtional and irrational numbers?
yes
one more, to the definition or RATIONAL number. if your decimal is finite, like 3.4 2.625 -1.88 -7.59 then the number is rational
ok, I will give you an example of how to do you problem if I have 4.2 and 4.4 and you will then do it with your numbers.....
ok
A rational number between 4.2 and 4.4 can for example be any decimal that is greater than 4.2 and less than 4.4 For example 4.3 ------------------------ An irrational number can be a square root that is less than 4.2 and greater than 4.3 For example \(4.2^2=17.64\) \(4.4^2=19.36\) So it can be a square root of any number between 17.64 and 19.36 like \(\sqrt{18}\) Check √18 = 4.242640687 (via calculator) So, now round that to nearest hunderedth √18 ≈ 4.24 (you round it down, because after a 4 is a 2 and 2 is rounded down, not up) so you found your irrational number.
correction: A rational number between 4.2 and 4.4 can for example be any \(\color{red}{\rm finite}\) decimal that is greater than 4.2 and less than 4.4
(take your time)
so a rational number between 7.7 and 7.9 can be 7.756784535583495...
ok, yes.... can you tell me how you got this number tho'?
oh wait, nio
7.756784535583495... is irrational, no?
what?
i thought that irrational was terminating not repeating
i thought that rational was repeating
Rational number decimals: Terminating: (like 1.\(\color{red}{34}\)3434343434 .... ) Repeating: (like -2.\(\color{red}{6}\)666666.... ) Also simple decimals that don't go on forever like: \(-2.457\) \(0.5\) \(4.21\) \(-43.873\) \(92.555\)
An irrational decimal is a decimal that is NOT terminating and NOT repeating. In other words, it goes forver, and doesn't have any pattern to it what so ever.
Can you tell me a rational RATIONAL number that is between \(7.7\) and \(7.8\)? (just give me a simple decimal)
so pi is irrational 3.1415926535.....
Yes, \(\pi\) (and e, if you heard of it) are definitely irrational
also \(\psi\) (infinite series of fibonacci reciprocals)
is irrational.
so 7.725
yes, 7.725 can be a rational number between 7.7 and 7.9 Nice!
Now, how about an IRRATIONAL number between 7.7 and 7.9? (remember how I found an IRRATIONAL number between 4.2 and 4.4 ?)
7.7*7.7=59.29 7.9*7.9=62.41 \[\sqrt{60}\]
yes, now, (using a calculator), calculate \(\sqrt{60}\)
how?
you can use this site: wolframalpha.com
enter there "square root of 60" and it will give you the answer
it will simplfy it for you under "Result" but, you need the "Decimal Approximation" that it will give.
Or google can do it for you, as well: https://www.google.com/search?site=&source=hp&q=square+root+of+60&oq=square+root+of+60&gs_l=hp.3..19j0l10.1111.4707.0.5000.22.15.0.2.2.0.923.2182.1j4j0j2j6-1.8.0....0...1c.1.64.hp..13.9.1262.0.wj4VxQsctJM
so, \(\sqrt{60}=?\)
\[2\sqrt{15}\]
yes that is the exact result, and the "DECIMAL APPROXIMATION" 9what we need) is \(\sqrt{60} \approx 7.745966692....\)
now round that to nearest hunderedth and you get?
7.75
yes correct
you are done i guess. you found rational and irrational numbers as needed;)
thank you
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