Find the solution of 3 times the square root of the quantity of x plus 6 equals negative 12, and determine if it is an extraneous solution.
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OpenStudy (iwanttogotostanford):
@ospreytriple @BloomLocke367 @freckles
OpenStudy (bloomlocke367):
First off, can you write that in an equation?
OpenStudy (iwanttogotostanford):
yes
OpenStudy (bloomlocke367):
Do that first. Tell us what you get.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
You have\[3\sqrt{x+6} = -12\]What do you think we should do first?
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OpenStudy (iwanttogotostanford):
\[3\sqrt{x+6}=-12\]
OpenStudy (iwanttogotostanford):
not sure
OpenStudy (bloomlocke367):
There are a few ways to do this, but the easiest would be to isolate the radical. Do you know how you would do that?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Well we have to get the 'x' stuff all by itself, so how would you get rid of that 3?
OpenStudy (iwanttogotostanford):
square it?
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OpenStudy (bloomlocke367):
you have to get rid of the 3 first. Right now, the 3 is being multiplied with \(\sqrt{x+6}\). How do you "get rid of" something that is being multiplied?
OpenStudy (iwanttogotostanford):
divide
OpenStudy (bloomlocke367):
Yes! now divide both sides by 3 and tell me what you're left with
OpenStudy (iwanttogotostanford):
i don't have a calulator with me right now
OpenStudy (bloomlocke367):
You don't know \(-12\div 3\)?
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OpenStudy (iwanttogotostanford):
yes its -4
OpenStudy (bloomlocke367):
There you go. so right now, you have \(\sqrt{x+6}=-4\) correct?
OpenStudy (iwanttogotostanford):
yes
OpenStudy (bloomlocke367):
Now, how would you get rid of that radical?
OpenStudy (iwanttogotostanford):
hmm im not sure
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OpenStudy (bloomlocke367):
Well, what's the opposite of taking the square root of something?
OpenStudy (iwanttogotostanford):
squaring it?
OpenStudy (iwanttogotostanford):
im clueless on this sorry
OpenStudy (bloomlocke367):
yes! so you have to square both sides :D
OpenStudy (bloomlocke367):
Don't apologize. You're doing great :D
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OpenStudy (iwanttogotostanford):
okay, thanks!
OpenStudy (iwanttogotostanford):
so it would be x^2+36=16?
OpenStudy (bloomlocke367):
No, because when you squared it, it just cancelled out the radical. For instance, when you take \(\sqrt1^2\), you don't get \(1^2\) do you? No, you just get 1. Try again. The right side is correct.
OpenStudy (iwanttogotostanford):
so, x+6=16?
OpenStudy (bloomlocke367):
Yep!
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OpenStudy (iwanttogotostanford):
ok, thanks! so then it would be x=10 right?
OpenStudy (iwanttogotostanford):
and would it be extraneous or not extraneous though?
OpenStudy (bloomlocke367):
mhm, I'm pretty certain. Let me ask @Nnesha if I did this correctly. Now we just have to check to make sure it's not extraneous. Do you know what an extraneous solution is?
Nnesha (nnesha):
did a great job!
OpenStudy (bloomlocke367):
Okay, thanks. lol
@iwanttogotostanford do you know what an extraneous solution is?
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OpenStudy (iwanttogotostanford):
@BloomLocke367 yes
OpenStudy (bloomlocke367):
Then graph it and find out if there's a point where x=4
OpenStudy (iwanttogotostanford):
do you know if it is or not? I'm sorry I'm just in a very hard place right now to be graphing things (I'm on a plane)
Nnesha (nnesha):
you can substitute x for 10 into the original equation to find out if it's extraneous or not. :=)
OpenStudy (iwanttogotostanford):
thanks! @Nnesha
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OpenStudy (bloomlocke367):
Sorry, I was afk. Thanks @Nnesha
Nnesha (nnesha):
np
Nnesha (nnesha):
if you get equal sides then it's not extraneous
if both sides are not equal then 10 would be an extraneous
OpenStudy (iwanttogotostanford):
ok thanks do u know if it is or not? @Nnesha
OpenStudy (bloomlocke367):
oops, I don't know why I said 4 earlier, I meant to say 10. lol
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Nnesha (nnesha):
no i don't. you have to figure it out!
OpenStudy (iwanttogotostanford):
@Nnesha well i don't have paper with me so its really hard
Nnesha (nnesha):
welll, you can use `paint`
Nnesha (nnesha):
that would be fun! trust me
OpenStudy (iwanttogotostanford):
ok, thank you @Nnesha
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OpenStudy (iwanttogotostanford):
i got extraneous:-)
Nnesha (nnesha):
both sides are equal ?
OpenStudy (iwanttogotostanford):
no they aren't equal
OpenStudy (bloomlocke367):
There you go!
OpenStudy (iwanttogotostanford):
thanks!
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Nnesha (nnesha):
o^_^o
OpenStudy (iwanttogotostanford):
they aren't equal= not extraneous?
OpenStudy (bloomlocke367):
You were correct the first time, it is extraneous because they are not equal.
OpenStudy (bloomlocke367):
wait....
Nnesha (nnesha):
both sides are not equal = extraneous
both sides are equal = non-extraneous
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OpenStudy (bloomlocke367):
when you take the square root of something, it could be positive or negative
OpenStudy (bloomlocke367):
Right @Nnesha?
Nnesha (nnesha):
`something`
if you mean
square root of negative number then you will get `imaginary` solution
if you take square root of positive then you would always get positive answer
OpenStudy (iwanttogotostanford):
i think its non-extraneous
OpenStudy (bloomlocke367):
how so? because -4*-4=16 AND 4*4=16
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OpenStudy (iwanttogotostanford):
oh whoops i did -4 times 4
Nnesha (nnesha):
\[\huge\rm 3\sqrt{10+16}=-12\]
whet did you get at left side ?
OpenStudy (iwanttogotostanford):
i get it now
OpenStudy (bloomlocke367):
I gotta go, sorry!
Nnesha (nnesha):
i said `number`
if -4 times -4 = positive number so square root would be positive
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