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OpenStudy (irishboy123):

complex number

OpenStudy (irishboy123):

for \( |z| = 2\), prove: \[|z^2 - 4 z - 3 | \le 15\]

OpenStudy (freckles):

\[-15 \le z^2-4z-3 \le 15 \\ -15+3 \le z^2-4z \le 15+3 \\ -12 \le z^2-4z \le 18 \\ -12+4 \le z^2-4z+4 \le 18+4 \\ -8 \le (z-2)^2 \le 22 \\ 0 \le (z-2)^2 \le 22 \\ (z-2)^2 \le 22 \\ -\sqrt{22} \le z-2 \le \sqrt{22} \\ \] I wonder if it has anything to do with this I'm still thinking

OpenStudy (loser66):

I wonder if I take it easy?? Using Triangle in equality, I have \(|z^2-4z -3|\leq |z^2| +|-4z|+|-3|= |z|^2 +4|z| +|-3)= 2^2 +4*2 +3 =15\)

OpenStudy (freckles):

I think loser's way works awesome

OpenStudy (loser66):

Thank you. I was doubt myself.

OpenStudy (irishboy123):

@Loser66 which are the sides of the triangle??

OpenStudy (irishboy123):

can you draw it pls?

OpenStudy (loser66):

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OpenStudy (loser66):

That is the triangle inequality theorem.

OpenStudy (loser66):

\(|x+y|\leq |x| +|y|\)

OpenStudy (irishboy123):

yes, i can see that, it is absolutely marvellous however, i cannot see how we apply it to \[z^2āˆ’4zāˆ’3\]

OpenStudy (freckles):

\[|z^2-4z-3|=|z^2+(-4z-3)| \le |z^2|+|(-4z-3)| =|z|^2+|(-1)(4z+3)| \\ =2^2+|-1| \cdot |4z+3|=4+1 \cdot |4z+3| \\= 4+|4z+3| \le 4+|4z|+|3| =4+|4| \cdot |z|+3 \\ =4+4(2)+3=4+8+3=15\] is it the three term thing @IrishBoy123 ?

OpenStudy (loser66):

Yes! same. :)

OpenStudy (freckles):

http://mathworld.wolfram.com/TriangleInequality.html triangle inequality can hold for more than two term

OpenStudy (irishboy123):

yep @freckles it is the 3 term thing i can see the basic triangle thing but i am staring at a quadratic in z and it is not so clear

OpenStudy (freckles):

Well you could apply the triangle inequality twice as I did above

OpenStudy (freckles):

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OpenStudy (irishboy123):

right, i need to read some more brilliant, @freckles and @Loser66 much appreciated! i will revert :p

OpenStudy (irishboy123):

and by read, i mean read 'this thread'

OpenStudy (freckles):

loser was the brilliant one he was like oh lets use triangle inequality

OpenStudy (freckles):

oops she

OpenStudy (freckles):

I'm so sorry loser

OpenStudy (irishboy123):

"I'm so sorry loser" you could not make this up! good night lovely people! sleep well!

OpenStudy (irishboy123):

well, depends on what time zone you are in, i suppose, but......zzzzzzzzz.

OpenStudy (freckles):

goodnight

OpenStudy (irishboy123):

got there! posting a related question. i think i know how to do it now but i am interested in seeing what people have to say.

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