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OpenStudy (idku):

Ok, can someone show me ....

OpenStudy (idku):

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OpenStudy (idku):

I found: Horizontal component of the velocity: \(\LARGE V_x=11\cos(44)\approx 7.9\) Vertical component of the velocity: \(\LARGE V_x=11\sin(44)\approx 7.6\) ---------------------------------------------------- How do I find the maximum height that the bsll goes above the ground?

OpenStudy (idku):

bsll is supposed to say ball.

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

What's the question ?

OpenStudy (idku):

How do I find the maximum height that the bAll goes above the ground?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Do you know your equations of motion?

OpenStudy (idku):

Which one?

OpenStudy (idku):

I might as well just say, no I don't....

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

i think we need to know the height of those ppl

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

at least we need to know the height of the person throwing the ball

OpenStudy (anonymous):

This is projectile motion correct, so it's better if you label your vector quantities more precisely, so we're dealing with the y - direction here\[\vec a = \frac{ v_{yf}-v_{yi} }{ t }\] where \[v_{yf}=0\] is there more information to this, all you gave is a diagram?

OpenStudy (idku):

f is final, i is initial. just clarifying....

OpenStudy (idku):

I deleted the question I am so bump ---------------------------- Julie throws a ball to her friend Sarah. The ball leaves Julie's hand a distance 1.5 meters above the ground with an initial speed of 11 m/s at an angle 44 degrees; with respect to the horizontal. Sarah catches the ball 1.5 meters above the ground.

OpenStudy (idku):

Wait, a is acceleration, but for maximum height, why do we need it? (btw, sorry again and again for deleted the question.)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

The key thing to observe is that the vertical component of velocity will be 0 when the ball reaches the maximum height

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\[v_y = u_y - gt\] set that equal to 0 and find the time at which that happens

OpenStudy (anonymous):

a = g in this case

OpenStudy (idku):

what is u_y ?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\(a = -g\) because we take upwards as increasing position

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\(u_y\) = initial vertical component of velocity

OpenStudy (idku):

oh. my teacher labelled it \(\LARGE y_{0_{^{_{\huge _x}}}}\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

You can label it what ever, long as it makes sense to you and your teacher

OpenStudy (idku):

or, idk maybe I am confusing labels. I suck at this:)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

thats ridankulous normally we use \(v\) and \(u\) for velocity \(x\) and \(y\) for positions

OpenStudy (idku):

Yeah it is I that mixed something up (as always)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

we never used u, always v_0 xD

OpenStudy (idku):

Oh yes V_(0y), that!

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

v = u + at is how i still remember my kinematics eqns from highschool

OpenStudy (anonymous):

that's much easier to

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

it doesn't matter but we all need to agree on same thing..

OpenStudy (idku):

\(\LARGE V_y=V_{0y}-gt\) \(\LARGE 0=V_{0y}+9.81t\) and what did you say set equal to 0? like this, or am I wrong again?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

looks good and do you know why you're setting that equal to 0

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

no wait, you flipped the sign

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\(\LARGE V_y=V_{0y}-gt\) \(\LARGE 0=V_{0y}\color{red}{-}9.81t\) and what did you say set equal to 0? like this, or am I wrong again?

OpenStudy (idku):

(I just want to do this the way my teacher does it, because I got enough confusion already for 100 seasons in advance....)

OpenStudy (idku):

oh, you said -g, so I thought... ok will take a note

OpenStudy (idku):

\(\LARGE 0=V_{0y}+9.81t\)

OpenStudy (idku):

And I am setting it to 0, because V_y is the derivative of D_y (where D is displacement - in ase of y, the height)

OpenStudy (idku):

So we are already having the derivative of the function that we want to maximize. Right?

OpenStudy (idku):

oh, -9.81 ... my bad.

OpenStudy (idku):

\(\LARGE 0=V_{0y}-9.81t\)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

remember this : \(g\) is acceleration due to gravity, it equals approximately \(9.81\) on surface on earth, it is always positive.

OpenStudy (idku):

wait, so no minus; plus?

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\(a\) is acceleration, in our case \(a = -g = -9.81\)

OpenStudy (idku):

\(\Large 0=V_{0y}\color{red}{\bf-}9.81t\)

OpenStudy (idku):

so g is pos, -g is neg. at least I know that. I am a pes(t) - imist.

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

\(a\) is negative because \(g\) is pointing downward but we are taking "upwards" as increasing position

OpenStudy (idku):

Ok, and then I just find cthe maximum of our unknown displacement of y, based on the given velocity component (which is the derivative of the displacement)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

right, one thing at a time first find the time at which vertical component of velocity becomes 0

OpenStudy (idku):

t=0?

OpenStudy (idku):

at t=0 ... V_(0y) is 0.

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