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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Let X=(a,b,c,d,e)andτ=(X,ϕ,[a],[c,d],[a,c,d],[b,c,d,e]).LetA=[a,c] , then set A′of limit points of A is given by

OpenStudy (anonymous):

A′=(b,c,e) A′=(b,d,e) A′=(b,e) A′=X

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@zzr0ck3r

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i think option B

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@zzr0ck3r

OpenStudy (anonymous):

am i correct ?

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

Do you mean interval [ ] ?

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

or { }

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

do you mean the empty set \(\emptyset\) and not that weird thing?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i think {} and that weird thing is empty set

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

ok can you edit it to make sense?

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

these things mean different things...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

X=(a,b,c,d,e)andτ=(X,ϕ,{a},{c,d},{a,c,d},{b,c,d,e}).LetA={a,c} , then set A′ of limit points of A is given by

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@zzr0ck3r

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

why do you think B?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

because that is A complement with X

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

So you think that the set of limit points is defined to be the compliment?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

please i will be happy if you explain the concept with you

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

I already have.

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

What is a limit point?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

it is the boundary points or closed interval points

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@zzr0ck3r

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

So you did not read a thing I wrote on the last problem?

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

Go back and read that and then tell me what a limit point is

OpenStudy (anonymous):

a point for which every neighborhood contains at least one point belonging to a given set.

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

Also, when you reply to something I have commented on, I get tagged and see it. There is no reason to tag me more than once on a post.

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

ok, so what are the open sets containing b?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

,{b,c,d,e}

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

does that intersect A? in other words, does that share any points with A?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes c

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

ok, what are the open sets containing d?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

{c,d},{a,c,d},{b,c,d,e}

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

I shuold be saying intersect A at some other point...

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

ok do all of those sets intersect A at some other point other than d?

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

why are you using caps?

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

d is not in A... try again

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sorry . 'a' for the first and 'c' for the second and third

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

right

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

ok and with e we get the same thing as with b right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

So your option is looking good, but maybe some other point is also a limit point. What open sets contain a?

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

Better yet, do all of the open sets that contain a also intersect A at some point other than a?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

{a},{a,c,d}

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

do all of the open sets that contain a also intersect A at some point other than a?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but not {a}

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

right so you mean no then?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

then a is not a limit point what about c?

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

is c a limit point?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes ,{a,c,d} because it intersects A

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

is that the only open set that contains c? Remember, we only have to find one that does not intersect at some point other than c

OpenStudy (anonymous):

,{c,d},{a,c,d},{b,c,d,e} contain c

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

do all of those intersect A at some point different than c?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

only {a,c,d}

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

so there is at least one that does not?

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

then c is NOT a limit point. So yes your option B is the answer, but not for the reason you listed :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok. thanks . i have to view this page more often to understand this

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Let A=(0,1]⋃2 be a subset of R

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what are the limit points

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

remember to show something is not a limit points you need to show that it has an open set around it that intersects the set at some point OTHER than the point in question. I did not stress that in the last post.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok thanks

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

For a subset \(A\subset X\) a limit point \(x\) of \(A\) is a point in \(X\) (not necessarily in \(A\)) such that all open sets containing it intersect \(A\) at some point other than \(x\).

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i think 0 and 1

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

you think what 0 and 1?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Let A=(0,1]⋃2 be a subset of R

OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):

done

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