Let
X=(a,b,c,d,e)andτ=(X,ϕ,[a],[c,d],[a,c,d],[b,c,d,e]).LetA=[a,c]
, then set
A′of limit points of A
is given by
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
A′=(b,c,e)
A′=(b,d,e)
A′=(b,e)
A′=X
OpenStudy (anonymous):
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
i think option B
OpenStudy (anonymous):
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
am i correct ?
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OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):
Do you mean interval [ ] ?
OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):
or { }
OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):
do you mean the empty set \(\emptyset\) and not that weird thing?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
i think {} and that weird thing is empty set
OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):
ok can you edit it to make sense?
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OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):
these things mean different things...
OpenStudy (anonymous):
X=(a,b,c,d,e)andτ=(X,ϕ,{a},{c,d},{a,c,d},{b,c,d,e}).LetA={a,c}
, then set
A′ of limit points of A
is given by
OpenStudy (anonymous):
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OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):
why do you think B?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
because that is A complement with X
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OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):
So you think that the set of limit points is defined to be the compliment?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
please i will be happy if you explain the concept with you
OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):
I already have.
OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):
What is a limit point?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
it is the boundary points or closed interval points
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
@zzr0ck3r
OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):
So you did not read a thing I wrote on the last problem?
OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):
Go back and read that and then tell me what a limit point is
OpenStudy (anonymous):
a point for which every neighborhood contains at least one point belonging to a given set.
OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):
Also, when you reply to something I have commented on, I get tagged and see it. There is no reason to tag me more than once on a post.
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OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):
ok, so what are the open sets containing b?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
,{b,c,d,e}
OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):
does that intersect A? in other words, does that share any points with A?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
yes c
OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):
ok, what are the open sets containing d?
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
{c,d},{a,c,d},{b,c,d,e}
OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):
I shuold be saying intersect A at some other point...
OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):
ok do all of those sets intersect A at some other point other than d?
OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):
why are you using caps?
OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):
d is not in A... try again
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
sorry . 'a' for the first and 'c' for the second and third
OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):
right
OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):
ok and with e we get the same thing as with b right?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
yes
OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):
So your option is looking good, but maybe some other point is also a limit point.
What open sets contain a?
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OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):
Better yet, do all of the open sets that contain a also intersect A at some point other than a?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
{a},{a,c,d}
OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):
do all of the open sets that contain a also intersect A at some point other than a?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
yes
OpenStudy (anonymous):
but not {a}
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OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):
right so you mean no then?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
yes
OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):
then a is not a limit point
what about c?
OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):
is c a limit point?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
yes ,{a,c,d} because it intersects A
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OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):
is that the only open set that contains c?
Remember, we only have to find one that does not intersect at some point other than c
OpenStudy (anonymous):
,{c,d},{a,c,d},{b,c,d,e} contain c
OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):
do all of those intersect A at some point different than c?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
only {a,c,d}
OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):
so there is at least one that does not?
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OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):
then c is NOT a limit point.
So yes your option B is the answer, but not for the reason you listed :)
OpenStudy (anonymous):
ok. thanks . i have to view this page more often to understand this
OpenStudy (anonymous):
Let
A=(0,1]⋃2
be a subset of
R
OpenStudy (anonymous):
what are the limit points
OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):
remember to show something is not a limit points you need to show that it has an open set around it that intersects the set at some point OTHER than the point in question. I did not stress that in the last post.
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
ok thanks
OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):
For a subset \(A\subset X\) a limit point \(x\) of \(A\) is a point in \(X\) (not necessarily in \(A\)) such that all open sets containing it intersect \(A\) at some point other than \(x\).
OpenStudy (anonymous):
i think 0 and 1
OpenStudy (anonymous):
ok
OpenStudy (zzr0ck3r):
you think what 0 and 1?
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