I have a issure with a Series exercises,anyone can help please?
\[\sum_{1}^{\infty} \frac{ n ^{2} }{ 2^{n} }\]
@ayeshaafzal221
are you trying to establish whether the series converges/diverges?
Does \[\lim\limits_{n→∞} a_n = 0\]
I'm trying to reach the final result
I wanna see how to do that
you are adding the terms in a series but if they are increasing as you go there is no way the series can converge to a finite sum so look at the individual term. it just looks bad but you can apply l'Hopital's rule:
sorry it looks good as polynomial on top, exponent on bottom, my bad do you know l'Hospital?
i am looking at this list, as you seem to need some technique or approach i'd suggest we just work down it http://www.math.hawaii.edu/~ralph/Classes/242/SeriesConvTests.pdf
Yeah,the basics,I derivated each term and try to do the limit again
derivate*
cool do it!
But (n^2)' = 2n
yes do the bottom next
and I dont know how to derivate 2^n
\[\sf a^x = a^x \cdot \ln a\]
oop... \(\frac{d}{dx}\)* of..... haha.
Oh
so it's (2n)/(2^n) * ln 2?
and it is infinite / infinite and I do lhospital again?
yes
0/(2^n)*ln 2 = 0
this is the answer?
so what does that prove?
It is convergent?
no!!!
Dammit 50:50 chance and I failed
we applied the test to the individual term of the series and so the terms get smaller as this series goes on but it does not follow that the series is finite look at the link again http://www.math.hawaii.edu/~ralph/Classes/242/SeriesConvTests.pdf we have applied the first test. it can tell you something is not convergent but it cannot tell you whether something is convergent
p-series?
An example: \[\Sigma \frac{1}{n} \] diverges even though the individual terms get smaller and smaller
I see,because the "p" equals 1,right?
Oh because according to the p-series test, \(\dfrac{1}{n^{\color{red}{1}}} \) means that 1 \(\gt\) 1, so it diverges.
Ahh, i meant not greater than.
There is no darn symbol for that.
@Jhannybean i'm literally blagging it from that sheet i linked, and it says Does \(a_n = 1/n^p, n ≥ 1?\), but we have Does \(a_n = n^2/n^p, n ≥ 1?\) i'd ratio test it as i feel safer
@xfire30 you there and OK ?!
Yes,just to make sure,if the result was 0,it was divergent no matter the type of the series,but if it is 0,it depends on the type of the series,right?
if \[ \lim\limits_{n→∞} a_n \ne 0 \] it diverges
but if \[\lim\limits_{n→∞} a_n = 0\] on we plod, it could still go either way
so we need another test can you try this one from the sheet? RATIO TEST Is limn→∞ |an+1/an| 6= 1?
I will try,But I have to go for 20 minutes to pick up my broather from the train station,I will tag you when I'm back
is \[ \lim\limits_{n→∞} |\frac{a_{n+1}}{a_n}| \lt 1\]??? i have to go too but try this out and see where you go
No,it is bigger than 1
you sure? \[\large \frac{\frac{(n+1)^2}{2^{n+1}}}{\frac{n^2}{2^n}} = \frac{(n+1)^2}{2^{n+1}}.\frac{2^n}{n^2}\]
I dont get it,is this another exercise or the same one?
this is the ratio test you were going to apply
I dont get it
How did you got that?
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work that through to a conclusion :p
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