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OpenStudy (mathmath333):

There are 40 students .In how many ways can they be arranged to form a team with 1 captain and 4 vice-captains ?

OpenStudy (mathmath333):

\(\large \color{black}{\begin{align} & \normalsize \text{There are 40 students .In how many ways can they be arranged to}\hspace{.33em}\\~\\ & \normalsize \text{ form a team with 1 captain and 4 vice-captains ? }\hspace{.33em}\\~\\ \end{align}}\)

OpenStudy (steve816):

40C1 * 40C4 I think that is the answer... btw, why are you only posting counting questions?

OpenStudy (mathmath333):

why not 40C1 *40C4 *5!

OpenStudy (mathmath333):

@steve816

OpenStudy (steve816):

Where did you get the 5! ?

OpenStudy (mathmath333):

to permutate 5 students

OpenStudy (steve816):

Actually, I think you might be right! 40C1 *40C4 *5!

OpenStudy (mathmath333):

r u 100% sure

OpenStudy (steve816):

Not a 100%, I struggled a little bit during probability unit too, but it seems right.

OpenStudy (badhi):

when a captain is chosen, there will be 39 left so shouldnt it be 40C1*39C4

OpenStudy (mathmath333):

but the 5 choosen students should be arranged in themselves

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

Alternative : You can choose 5 ppl for the team in \(\dbinom{40}{5}\) ways for each of that 5 member team, a captain can be chosen in \(\dbinom{5}{1}\) ways so total possible teams = \(\dbinom{40}{5}*\dbinom{5}{1}\)

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

btw thats same as 40C1*39C4

OpenStudy (badhi):

wow there are totally different ways to think of it.

OpenStudy (badhi):

Since the arrangement inside the group is not relavant 5! is not required

OpenStudy (mathmath333):

but in question the word 'arranged' is given

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

question is ambiguous you can't do anything if the question is ambiguous

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

do you have answer ?

OpenStudy (mathmath333):

yes 40 *39C4 is given answer

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

then read the question like this : \[ \large \color{black}{\begin{align} & \normalsize \text{There are 40 students. How many ways can a 5 member team }\hspace{.33em}\\~\\ & \normalsize \text{ with 1 captain and 4 normal players be formed ?}\hspace{.33em}\\~\\ \end{align}} \]

OpenStudy (badhi):

but in common sense, if we take a team, the team will not change if the team members are arranged in a different order. The team will be the same

OpenStudy (mathmath333):

ok but still max people gave 40C1*39C4 at first glance

ganeshie8 (ganeshie8):

40C1*39C4 is same as 40*39C4

OpenStudy (mathmath333):

i m getting suspeciuos of my different approach of understanding

OpenStudy (mathmath333):

yea i know its same

OpenStudy (mathmath333):

thnks

OpenStudy (jhannybean):

These questions are pretty fun to think about and solve.

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