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OpenStudy (anonymous):

A force of 400 Newtons stretches a spring 2 meters. A mass of 50 kilograms is attached to the end of the spring and is initially released from the equilibrium position with an upward velocity of 10 m/s. After finding the equation of motion, calculate x(t =pi/12). Round in the tenths place.

OpenStudy (irishboy123):

"After finding the equation of motion" what are you currently learning?! you can jump in with \(x(t) = A \cos (\omega t + \phi)\) as the general solution to shm and fit it to these facts or you can build a differential equation from forces or energy conservation...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

We are learning how to solve in-homogeneous and homogeneous 2nd order linear differential equations. However the class I'm taking an engineering course but it is essentially half differential equations and half multi-variable calculus.

OpenStudy (irishboy123):

soz, that doesn't really tell me what you want to do. do you have the DE that you want to solve? if not, do you need to find it? to illustrate: as it starts at equilibrium position (ie x=0 at t = 0), you could just say that \(x(t) = A \sin \omega t\) as that ticks all the shm boxes. so \(\dot x(t) = \omega A \cos \omega t\) ; and as it is "released from the equilibrium position with an upward velocity of 10 m/s", we know \(\dot x (0) \) also we know/ should know that \(\omega = \sqrt{\dfrac{k}{m}}\); and we get k from the info that "400 Newtons stretches a spring 2 meters" or we can start with \(m \ddot x + kx = 0\) and solve from there i hope that helps....:p

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the DE that needs to be solved is \[x(t)=C _{1}\cos(\omega \times t)+ C _{2}\sin (\omega \times t)\]

OpenStudy (irishboy123):

ok \(x(t)=C _{1}\cos(\omega t)+ C _{2}\sin (\omega t)\) \(\dot x(t)=-\omega C _{1}\sin(\omega t)+ \omega C _{2}\cos (\omega t)\) and you know that: \(x(0) = 0, \qquad \dot x(0) = -10\) that still leaves us with the task of finding \(\omega\), though that has been covered above.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Where did I go wrong? If you can't read it let me know.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@IrishBoy123

OpenStudy (irishboy123):

how did you figure out k, the spring constant?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

It gives you that m= 50 kg and the stretch is s=2m so (mg)/s= k (50)(9.8)/2=245

OpenStudy (irishboy123):

A force of 400 Newtons stretches a spring 2 meters.

OpenStudy (irishboy123):

take k from that :p

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Do I need to convert the newtons to kg?

OpenStudy (irishboy123):

\(F = kx\) \(k = \dfrac{F}{x}\) and plug in the numbers

OpenStudy (irishboy123):

F in newtons, x in metres

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so k=200 how do I get omega without a mass? Sorry to pester you so much.

OpenStudy (irishboy123):

we already saw that \(\omega = \sqrt{\dfrac{k}{m}}\) they gave you the mass in the question you're not pestering btw. this is interesting. i just hope that you are getting something from it :p

OpenStudy (anonymous):

That makes sense because k is a constant you can m=50 instead of having to know how to convert from Newtons to kg.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I still got it wrong.

OpenStudy (irishboy123):

what do you make \(\omega\) out to be?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\omega=\sqrt{\frac{ 200 }{ 50 }}=\sqrt{4}=2\]

OpenStudy (irishboy123):

that looks good

OpenStudy (anonymous):

my homework says I'm wrong

OpenStudy (irishboy123):

so... we have \(x(t)= A \sin 2t\) so \(\dot x(t)= 2A \cos 2t\) and from \(\dot x(0) = 10\), we can say \(2A \cos 0= 2A\)so \(A = 5\) so we have \(x(t)= 5 \sin 2t\) \(x(\frac{\pi}{12}) = 5 \sin \dfrac{\pi}{6}\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

which gives you x=2.5 that's what I put and it says it is incorrect.

OpenStudy (irishboy123):

you can also try x = -2.5 but this is the correct approach. i can think of several different approaches to the problem that will give the same result.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yeah it was x=-2.5 I'm assuming it is because the velocity is negative and A is technically equal to \[\pm5\]

OpenStudy (irishboy123):

it's convention. i stated it as -10 here and then thought i was over complicating it |dw:1445039584590:dw|

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Thank you for your help sorry it took so long but at least now I know how to do the problem.

OpenStudy (irishboy123):

it was good. thanks.

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