hi i really need help with this calc question. find the extrema, points of inflection, intervals where incre/dec, intervals where concave up or down, and any vertical/horizontal asymp. y= 2x(x-3)^2
find y' and y'', then the calculus is over
you need to sketch the basic graph from this info?
notice it is a cubic function, it prolly turns around a couple times inc/dec
What you get for the first derivative? product and chain rule
okay this is what i got
as my first direvitive= 2(c-30^2 +2(x-3)x
@DanJS also i need help with the second derivative.
man, sorry, i dont get notifications
yes, me too
okay so if my first part is correct which i do no tthink it is. plz tell me how to do the derivative
the function is a product of two terms, 2x and (x - 3)^2, recall the power rule [f*g] ' = first * derivative second + second * derivative first
and the chain rule for the (x-3)^2 term when you have to take it's derivative
2(x-3)? so my first derivative is right?
\[y' = (2x)*2(x-3)^1*1 + (x-3)^2 * 2\] \[y' = 6*(x-3)*(x-1)\]
and critical points there would be 3 and 1
cleans up good after expanding all that out and simplify
yes critical points to test where maybe the thing changes from increaing to decreasing, are where the slope is zero there (horizontal), y ' = 0, yep, when xis 3 or 1
so what about the second derivitive?
x = 3, point y = 0 x = 1, y = 8 (3,0) and (1,8) you can add to the graph, possible change in directions
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just pick any easy number to use inside each of those intervals between the critical points, and see if the derivative (slope) is positive or negative
yes, that how i am doing it too. thank that so nice of you to help me. :) tysm. but i have a question.
(2x)∗2(x−3)1∗1+(x−3)2∗2 how did u got 6(x-3)(x-1) from the equation above y′=6∗(x−3)∗(x−1)
are u there?
sorry had to do somthing back
expand it all out, and combine like terms, then factor, i think , (i just used calculator)
it's okay. i wiill do anything to get done with this problem today lol. okay so this is what i had 2((x-3)^2 +2(x+3)x)
how did you get that?
wait let me attach a file
that equals 6(x^2+3),
are u able to open it?
[2x] ' = 2 [(x-3)^2] ' = 2(x-3)^1 * 1
did u open the link?
oh are you doin the second derivative
no, i am talking about the first
did u see if the first derivitive u got is right or not with the one i got from the website?
let me look at the site, pretty sure mine is right, it matches the graph
yeah, i think u are right too but just making sure.
yeah that last answer is the same, just messy looking
so yours is right
yeah, so is the website in an uglier form, you just copied it here wrong, so it wasnt good..
but it's okay if i write yours?
yeah i would, that is probably what they want in your class or book
okay. thanks! i still need help with the second derivitive
y = 2x(x-3)^2 y' = 6*(x-3)*(x-1) y'' = 12x - 24
using the chain rule, pretty simple, the derivative of those quantities is 1, and th equantity to the zero power is 1 or you can multiply it all out, and just use the power rule
ao y "= 1
so*
y'' = 6 * [ (x-3) * 1*(x-1)^0 *1 + (x-1)* 1 *(x-3)^0 *1 ]
that is the chain rule, more typing than thinking , 6*[(x-3) + (x-1)] 12x - 24
If you expand y' first, you get y ' = 6x^2 - 24x + 18 y ' ' = 12x - 24 (easy power rule in that case)
thanks but the answer whould be 12(x-2) critical point at 2
lol yeah, factor a 12 out
for the y"
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