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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Find a counterexample for the statement. For every real number N > 0, there is some real number x such that Nx > x.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I tried N= -1 and it was wrong

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Anything negative. will be an answer.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

bs it flips the </> sign(s)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

we can rewrite it as $$x(N-1)>0$$ if \(N=1\), the expression is zero for all \(x\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Agreed. :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so no, negative \(N\) does not work, as we could just as easily pick negative \(x\) so that \(Nx\) is positive and therefore greater than \(x\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Aren't we finding a 'counter example'? So if N is negative, then 0 is grater than any negative value right? ex: -10 < 0 -1 < 0 etc....?

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

it would equal itself in the zero case

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

So, here is how I'd approach this: what are they claiming? any positive number times a real will be greater than that real. Alright, does it seem reasonable? Not really. So we pick a number, x, to try. You tried x=-1 where we find N(-1)<-1not greater as required, so yes you found your counterexample.

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

however, they are just saying that there is some real number, so can we find one that does work? yea, any x>0. SO we come to the conclusion that in order for this statement to be true for all x, \(x> 0\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

This thing is saying that all real numbers greater than 0 can be multiplied by at least one value, x, with a product greater than x. This is not true for \[1>N>0\] There real numbers that violate the greater than x stuff.

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