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OpenStudy (anonymous):

ln(x)+ln(x-1)=2 solve for x

OpenStudy (freckles):

use product rule for log on left hand side

OpenStudy (freckles):

then write an equivalent exponential form

OpenStudy (freckles):

\[\ln(a)=\log_e(a) \\ \text{ so if you have } \log_e(a)=y \text{ then } e^{y}=a\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

still need some help with it

OpenStudy (freckles):

have you used the product rule yet?

OpenStudy (freckles):

can you show me what you have after doing that please

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lnx(x-1)=2

OpenStudy (freckles):

\[\ln(x(x-1))=2 \\ \ln(x^2-x)=2 \\ \text{ now can you write this \in equivalent exponential form } \\ \text{ using what I mentioned }\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so would you end up with e^2=x^2-x?

OpenStudy (freckles):

that is right

OpenStudy (freckles):

you have a quadratic equation

OpenStudy (freckles):

\[e^2=x^2-x \\ 0=x^2-x-e^2 \\ x^2-x-e^2=0 \]

OpenStudy (freckles):

\[\text{ recall if } ax^2+bx+c=0 \text{ then } x=\frac{-b \pm \sqrt{b^2-4ac}}{2a}\]

OpenStudy (freckles):

make sure your final answers fit the domain of the original equation

OpenStudy (anonymous):

it won't except any way I put it in

OpenStudy (freckles):

how are you putting the answer in ?

OpenStudy (freckles):

exact form ? approximation? and can i also know what you have put in

OpenStudy (freckles):

and did you make sure you answers fit the domain of the original equation ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I put 1+sqrt(1-4e^2)/2

OpenStudy (freckles):

I see one problem

OpenStudy (freckles):

why do you have a - between 1 and 4e^2 ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

because it's b^2-4ac underneath the squareroot

OpenStudy (freckles):

\[x^2-x-e^2=0 \\ x=\frac{-(-1) \pm \sqrt{(-1)^2-4(1)(-e^2)}}{2(1)} \\ x=\frac{-1 \pm \sqrt{1+4 e^2}}{2} \\ \text{ the solution we have is } x=\frac{1+\sqrt{1+4e^2}}{2}\]

OpenStudy (freckles):

yes but a negative times a negative isn't negative

OpenStudy (freckles):

it is positive

OpenStudy (freckles):

you have -4 *-e^2 this is not -4e^2 it is 4e^2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

opps, I missed that thanks

OpenStudy (freckles):

also I made a type-o above but it was corrected in next line I had above

OpenStudy (freckles):

\[x^2-x-e^2=0 \\ x=\frac{-(-1) \pm \sqrt{(-1)^2-4(1)(-e^2)}}{2(1)} \\ x=\frac{1 \pm \sqrt{1+4 e^2}}{2} \\ \text{ the solution we have is } x=\frac{1+\sqrt{1+4e^2}}{2}\]*

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