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OpenStudy (destinyyyy):

Need help on 4 problems.. Polynomial and Rational Inequalities

OpenStudy (destinyyyy):

Solve the polynomial inequality and graph the solution set on a real number line. Express the solution set in interval notation. 4x^2 +7x<-3

OpenStudy (anonymous):

4x^2+7x+3<0

OpenStudy (destinyyyy):

Yup I have that.

OpenStudy (destinyyyy):

That's only the first step..

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i will help if i get your number

OpenStudy (destinyyyy):

No.

OpenStudy (destinyyyy):

@freckles

OpenStudy (destinyyyy):

@phi

OpenStudy (destinyyyy):

@johnweldon1993

OpenStudy (phi):

can you factor the quadratic?

OpenStudy (phi):

it is a pain to factor with a 4 on the x^2 but I would first do 4*3=12 and ask if any factors of 12 add up to 7 3 and 4 work so it does factor.

OpenStudy (destinyyyy):

Sorry was doing something else.. Yes x= -3/4 and -1

OpenStudy (destinyyyy):

(- infinity, -3/4) , (-3/4, -1), (-1, infinity)

OpenStudy (phi):

so you know ( x+3/4) ( x+1) <0 that will be negative if either (x+3/4) is negative and (x+1) is positive or vice versa I would test both conditions For example, (x+3/4) neg means (x+3/4)<0 x < -3/4 and (x+1) pos means (x+1)>0 x>-1

OpenStudy (phi):

If we do it the other way (x+3/4)>0 and (x+1) < 0 we get x > -3/4 and x < -1 which cannot happen i.e x cannot at the same time be below -1 and above -3/4 so only the first answer works -1 < x < -3/4

OpenStudy (phi):

I would write it (-1, -3/4)

OpenStudy (destinyyyy):

Um what? I have no clue what your doing..

OpenStudy (phi):

Do you have time to go over it ?

OpenStudy (destinyyyy):

My final answer is (-3/4,-1) and the system says its wrong.. I only test valued the first and last number. (-infinity, -3/4) and (-1,infinity). I did not test value (-3/4,-1)

OpenStudy (phi):

would write it (-1, -3/4)

OpenStudy (destinyyyy):

Why?

OpenStudy (phi):

the solution is x > -1 and x < -3/4 we put the lower bound first (that is the -1) and then the upper bound we use ( rather than [ because -1 is not part of the answer thus (-1, -3/4) how we know x>-1 and x < -3/4 is another story

OpenStudy (destinyyyy):

Alright.. Can you help with 3 more?

OpenStudy (destinyyyy):

Solve the rational inequality and graph the solution set on a real number line. Express the solution set in interval notation. x-9 over x-1 >0

OpenStudy (destinyyyy):

I got ( -infinity,9)U(1,infinity)

OpenStudy (phi):

\[ \frac{x-9}{x-1} > 0 \] that means the left side is positive (bigger than 0 means positive) you can get a positive number if you divide a positive by a positive or negative by negative follow so far?

OpenStudy (destinyyyy):

Yeah.

OpenStudy (phi):

there are two possibilities: both top and bottom are positive or both top and bottom are negative. Let's test the first case top positive means x-9 > 0 and at the same time, the bottom must be positive, which means x-1 > 0 ok so far?

OpenStudy (destinyyyy):

I guess.

OpenStudy (destinyyyy):

x=9 and 1

OpenStudy (phi):

don't use an = sign x-9 > 0 add 9 to both sides x>9 what do you get for the bottom x-1 >0

OpenStudy (destinyyyy):

My examples all do an = sign.

OpenStudy (phi):

we don't have = signs

OpenStudy (destinyyyy):

(- infinity, 9),(9,1),(1, infinity) ^^ I thought this one was weird but its what my example did.

OpenStudy (phi):

we can do solve it doing it the way I am showing you. so far we know x>9 and now we are doing the bottom x-1>0 add 1 to both sides

OpenStudy (destinyyyy):

Okay.

OpenStudy (phi):

x-1>0 add 1 to both sides

OpenStudy (destinyyyy):

x>1

OpenStudy (phi):

so what we found is when x>9 the top is positive and when x >1 the bottom is positive we need both top and bottom to be positive at the same time

OpenStudy (destinyyyy):

Sure.

OpenStudy (phi):

what x values make both top and bottom positive ?

OpenStudy (destinyyyy):

What?

OpenStudy (phi):

we are looking at \[ \frac{x-9}{x-1} > 0 \] the idea is if both the top and bottom are positive, then when we divide a positive by a positive we get a positive (and a positive number is > 0 )

OpenStudy (phi):

Does that make sense?

OpenStudy (destinyyyy):

Yeah.

OpenStudy (phi):

so we want to know what range of numbers x can be so that we know both the top and bottom are both positive.

OpenStudy (destinyyyy):

The answer is (-infinity,1)U(9,infinity)

OpenStudy (destinyyyy):

I found my mistake..

OpenStudy (destinyyyy):

I have no clue as to what your doing to solve these. It doesn't follow my examples. You did not do the test value. Ill figure out the other two my self.

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