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OpenStudy (melissa_something):

Matrix Question: I think I skipped a step but I got it?

OpenStudy (melissa_something):

Okayy so b =5 which is correct but when I multiplied 1 & 2 I canceled both a and c and I dont know what equation to plug it into because I already got b

OpenStudy (ybarrap):

My neck is hurting looking at that sideways...

OpenStudy (melissa_something):

Lol I'm so sorry I can change it

OpenStudy (melissa_something):

OpenStudy (ybarrap):

Is this it? $$ a+b+c=2\\ a+b-c=-8\\ 4a+2b+c=-1 $$

OpenStudy (melissa_something):

No its this: a+b+c=-10 a-b+c=-8 4a+(-2b)+c=-1

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

If we add together the first two equation, we get: \(a+c=-3\) so: \(c=-3-a\)

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

substituting that last equation into the first one, we get: \(b=2-c-a=2-(-3-a)-a=2+3+a-a=5\)

OpenStudy (melissa_something):

Thats the thing, @Michele_Laino I eliminated a and c in my work by just multiplying 1 by -1 and add it to equation 2, I was wondering if it's even possible to finish from this step.

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

summarizing: \(c=-3-a,b=5\)

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

yes, I think so!

OpenStudy (melissa_something):

Woah, okay let me take a moment to absorb all the math.

OpenStudy (melissa_something):

Okay @Michele_Laino You make it seem so easy. Also, what would I do when I just got the b=5? What equation would I plug it into??

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

@Michele_Laino how did you get `a+c = -3` ? When I add the first two equations, I get `2a+2c = -18` which can be turned into `a+c = -9`

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

you can substitute \(b=5\) into the first two original equations, so you should get a system of two equations with the unknowns \(a,c\) and you are able to solve it for \(a,c\)

OpenStudy (melissa_something):

@jim_thompson5910 @Michele_Laino Also, the answer to C=-7

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

when I sum I get: \(2a+2c=-6\) @jim_thompson5910

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

correct! @Melissa_Something

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

a+b+c=-10 a-b+c=-8 ----------- 2a+0b+2c = -18 2a+2c = -18 a+c = -9

OpenStudy (melissa_something):

The solutions are {(4, 5, -7)] By the way, I know how I am when I dont get the right answer!

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

please we have \(a+b+c=2\) @jim_thompson5910

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

correct! @Melissa_Something

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

I'm basing what I see when @Melissa_Something said `No its this: ` `a+b+c=-10` `a-b+c=-8` `4a+(-2b)+c=-1`

OpenStudy (melissa_something):

@jim_thompson5910 Omg I am so sorry the -10 was supposed to be a 2!!

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

ah that makes more sense now

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

thanks for your help @jim_thompson5910

OpenStudy (melissa_something):

@Michele_Laino Um, so the step after I got b=5... Am I wrong? It looks all weird. I used the equation when I multiplied -1 to equation 5.

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

no, I think no, in genral when I have to solve a linear system, I try to multiply an equation by a factor and the another equation by another factor, in order to eliminate one unknown. After that I substitute what i find in the remaining equation, it is a normal procedure

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

general*

OpenStudy (melissa_something):

Oh okay, thank you I'll try that now :(

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

ok! :)

OpenStudy (melissa_something):

Ok Im confused I got -83b+c =40 @Michele_Laino :(

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

what are your steps?

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

If I subtratct the second equation from the first one, I get: \(2b=10\)

OpenStudy (melissa_something):

\[(-4)-2b+c=-10(-4)\] which is 8b+(-4)c=40 then added up is \[6b+(-3)c=-41\]

OpenStudy (melissa_something):

Which is confusing because -41 / into 6 is -6.833333 :(

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

from third equation I get: \(-2b+c=-1-4a=-1-16=-17\)

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

please wait

OpenStudy (melissa_something):

It's fine :c It literally takes me 3 hours to do 1 of these -___-

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

please, write your algebraic system, so i can help you better

OpenStudy (melissa_something):

From where :( What algebraic system?

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

I don't understand your steps :(

OpenStudy (melissa_something):

I'm just gonna skip this, it makes me anxious and after a while evrything looks the same and I cant even tell how I got something :S I dont even understand my steps, maybe science major isnt for me...

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

please wait, when we are solving a linear system, it is better to combine only two equations at time, not three

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

please, don't be discouraged, science is for all!

OpenStudy (melissa_something):

Haha, that's the thing I only combined 2.. :/ It's okay teaching me math is the worst. After all my questions of why or how it just boils down to because math. & I dont understand :(

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

another advice is: you have to combine only original equations, namley you have to make all of your operations, only on the original equations

OpenStudy (melissa_something):

The thing is I only got b=5 and even when I plug it into the 1st equation its \[a+5+c=2\]

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

ok! now substitute \(b=5\) into the second one, what equation do you get?

OpenStudy (melissa_something):

\[a-5+c=-1\]

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

is the second equation like this: \(a-b+c=-8\)?

OpenStudy (melissa_something):

Yes, ugh I dont even know where I got the -1

OpenStudy (melissa_something):

\[a-5+c=-8\]

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

so both the first and second equation, give the subsequent condition: \(a+c=-3\), or equivalently \(c=-3-a\)

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

equations*

OpenStudy (melissa_something):

I swear you pulled that out of thin air :c

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

ok! now, please, write the third equation with \(b=5\) and \(c=-3-a\)

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

what do you get?

OpenStudy (melissa_something):

Hold on I literally just understood where you got the -3 from and now I'm mad, haha. Ok Lemme do it

OpenStudy (melissa_something):

Wait the 3rd original equation, right?

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

yes!

OpenStudy (melissa_something):

\[4a-2(5)+(-3-a)=-1\] ?

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

perfect! and after a simplification, such equation can be rewritten as follows: \(4a-10-3-a=-1\)

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

now, please solve that equation for \(a\)

OpenStudy (melissa_something):

I can't thank you enough :C You're super patient and you actually care about if someone gets it or not. Is there any way to request a qualified helper as you? Or have pay tutor sessions :(

OpenStudy (melissa_something):

Okie dokie

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

at the moment I can help you without the necessity to pay

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

please solve that equation for \(a\)

OpenStudy (melissa_something):

I think I did it wrong, hold on :( && Yes I was talking about for the future

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

other students tag me and I help them without payment

OpenStudy (melissa_something):

OMG guess what, I got it, I got a=4!!!

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

perfect!

OpenStudy (melissa_something):

That's very generous of you, much more respect :(

OpenStudy (melissa_something):

Okay okay, dont tell me I'll do it!! Hahaha

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

:) now, please substitute \(a=4,b=5\) into the first original equation

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

what do you get?

OpenStudy (melissa_something):

I got -5!!!

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

when I make those substitution, into your first original equation, I get: \(4+5+c=2\) am I right?

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

substitutions*

OpenStudy (melissa_something):

Yes, you're right somehow I got it wrong again -___-

OpenStudy (melissa_something):

I added 4+5 and subtracted from 2....

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

Correct!

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

what is \(c\)?

OpenStudy (melissa_something):

That's whats weird when I did 2-7 I got -5 Hahaha

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

:) please retry we have \(c=2-9=...?\)

OpenStudy (melissa_something):

Oh wow, of course. C=-7.... I put 4+5=7 Hahahaha Idk from where

OpenStudy (melissa_something):

Oh my gosh I'm finished!!!

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

yes! Now you know the general method in order to solve a linear system

OpenStudy (melissa_something):

You're a life saver... I was on the verge of breaking something.. I got so upset I gave myself a headache :(

OpenStudy (melissa_something):

Thank you so much :( I wish I was as good as you

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

thanks! :) Yes, one day you will be better than me!

OpenStudy (melissa_something):

Hahaha most likely not, maybe in another field but not math, have a good night. I wish you much love & light! :)

OpenStudy (michele_laino):

thanks!! :)

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