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OpenStudy (lifeisadangerousgame):

Calculus again

OpenStudy (lifeisadangerousgame):

@johnweldon1993

OpenStudy (johnweldon1993):

Sorry for the wait...1 sec :)

OpenStudy (lifeisadangerousgame):

No problem ^_^

OpenStudy (johnweldon1993):

Okay so first thing is...we know what relationship between position and velocity?

OpenStudy (lifeisadangerousgame):

umm. the relationship is that velocity is the final position minus the initial position over time?

OpenStudy (johnweldon1993):

Okay yes *trying to get something else but we'll work with that* So what you're saying is \[\large V = \frac{P_f - P_i}{t_f - t_i}\] Right?

OpenStudy (lifeisadangerousgame):

Right

OpenStudy (johnweldon1993):

Hmm...look familiar? Hint* \[\large m = \frac{y_2 - y_1}{x_2 - x_1}\] It is the same as the slope right?

OpenStudy (lifeisadangerousgame):

Mhm!

OpenStudy (johnweldon1993):

So we are basically proving that the velocity is the slope of the position at any given point Well let me ask you...at t = 4....what does the slope LOOK like?

OpenStudy (lifeisadangerousgame):

It looks like a horizontal line?

OpenStudy (lifeisadangerousgame):

Is that the tangent?

OpenStudy (johnweldon1993):

Essentially we are looking for the slope at that 1 point So yes we are basically putting a tangent line touching the graph at x = 4 and finding the slope of it But since we dont have the equation of the graph...we just "guess-timate" it lol At x = 4...going up to the graph...is there a positive or negative slope?

OpenStudy (lifeisadangerousgame):

Negative?

OpenStudy (johnweldon1993):

Right, why dont you sound sure |dw:1445631561046:dw|

OpenStudy (lifeisadangerousgame):

It looked negative, I just couldn't prove it to myself. Now what do we do?

OpenStudy (johnweldon1993):

Lol i mean yeah it a subtle negative but still there And from here we kinda just guess what the slope would be comparing to things we know Likeeeee y = -2 does it seem comparable? orrrrr y = -4 what about that?

OpenStudy (lifeisadangerousgame):

Where did you get y = -2 and y= -4 from? -4 seems to be the better match though

OpenStudy (johnweldon1993):

Look at your answer choices :)

OpenStudy (lifeisadangerousgame):

Ohh. And since we already established that the slope is negative, it can't be A or D. I get it. So now we're just guessing between -2 and -4 okay cool

OpenStudy (johnweldon1993):

Right :)

OpenStudy (johnweldon1993):

So now...I mean obviously we cannot calculate it exactly...but I mean if we want to do a REAALLLLL rough estimate It looks like at x = 4...we are at height = 9 and at x = 4.5 we look be to SOMEWHERE close to 8...so \[\large V = \frac{8 - 9}{4.5 - 4} = \frac{-1}{.5} = -2\] which is what I would have guessed at

OpenStudy (lifeisadangerousgame):

Ohh. I see, okay. This one was weird, we weren't taught hot to do it xD

OpenStudy (lifeisadangerousgame):

how*

OpenStudy (johnweldon1993):

Lol yeah these are annoying I mean if you were given like y = -(x - 3)^2 + 10 for the equation *which actually might be right XDDD you could just differentiate it and solve for the slope at x = 4 exactly...but these happen sometimes lol

OpenStudy (lifeisadangerousgame):

You were? I got -2 out of it after I got the derivative

OpenStudy (johnweldon1993):

Oh wow...yeah holy crap apparently I dont know how to do simple derivatives XDD

OpenStudy (johnweldon1993):

I did it then second guessed myself lol

OpenStudy (lifeisadangerousgame):

XD Calc is so much fun cx

OpenStudy (johnweldon1993):

Lol I agree Cx Alright but I'm headed out now...good luck with any other problems you have :)

OpenStudy (lifeisadangerousgame):

Thanks! Thank you for your help ^_^

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