More sigma series questions (but for sums this time)!
I need to find the sum of \[\sum_{k=2}^{\infty} \frac{ 3 }{ k^2-k }\] and \[\sum_{k=0}^{\infty} \frac{ 1-3^k }{ 7^k }\] and I have no idea where to begin with simplifying these.
you can split into partial fractions in the first case. or compare to 3/k^2-(1/100)k^2 (after some jth term it will be always greater)
The concept here is that once series converges after some jth term (say 1000000th), then it would converge starting from 1st term as well right?
( because the infinite series from jth term, is just lacking a finite scalar - i.e series from 1st to jth term)
am I being ridiculous?
HI!!
Not gonna lie, I did not understand half of that, m8.
second one or first?
Any help with either is great! I feel like these problems are JUST within reach but the stupid things are evading me like woah.
second one is easiest for sure \[\sum \frac{1}{7^k}-\sum \left(\frac{3}{7}\right)^k\] both are easy to add
you can do it in your head
\[\large \sum_{n=1}^{\infty}{\rm A}_n=\sum_{n=j}^{\infty}{\rm A}_n+\sum_{n=1}^{j-1}{\rm A}_n\] is this correct?
what is \(1-\frac{1}{7}\)?
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@misty1212 See, it seemed that way to me too, but the answer choices I have listed for this problem are: \[-\frac{ 7 }{ 6 }, -\frac{ 7 }{ 8 }, -\frac{ 7 }{ 18 }, -\frac{ 7 }{ 4 }, and - \frac{ 7 }{ 12 }.\]
we are not done yet
we haven't got the answer, we are working towards it what is \(1-\frac{1}{7}\)?
@misty1212 Ah! Well then, it's just \[\frac{ 6 }{ 7 }\].
\[\large \sum_{n=1}^{\infty}{\rm A}_n=\sum_{n=j}^{\infty}{\rm A}_n+\sum_{n=1}^{j-1}{\rm A}_n\] we know that \[\sum_{n=1}^{j-1}{\rm A}_n\]is constant/scalar, so we can say let\[k=\sum_{n=1}^{j-1}{\rm A}_n\] so k is constant. thus, \[\large \sum_{n=1}^{\infty}{\rm A}_n=\sum_{n=j}^{\infty}{\rm A}_n+k\] and this way if infinite series that starts from n=j converges, then the infinite series that starts from n=1 must converge (provided all terms from n=1 to n=j are defined). (THEORY THAT IF SERIES CONVERGES AFTER JTH TERM THEN IT CONVERGES AFTER 1ST TERM)
it is going to take a couple steps we have to compute each then subtract but both you can compute in your head where \(\frac{6}{7}\) right ans what is the reciprocal of \(\frac{6}{7}\)?
I know your questions are to evaluate actually, as opposed to determine convergence, but what I say is just for future to nail the series with comparison test.
i meant "and what is the reciprocal of \(\frac{6}{7}\)?
@fbi2015 Any bit helps, believe me. I do recognize that equation.
Reciprocal is \[\frac{ 7 }{ 6 }\]
we are gong to compute \[\sum\left(\frac{1}{7}\right)^k\] mentally \[1-\frac{1}{7}=\frac{6}{7}\] and the reciprocal of \(\frac{6}{7}=\frac{7}{6}\) so \[\sum\left(\frac{1}{7}\right)^k=\frac{7}{6}\]
repeat for \[\sum \left(\frac{3}{7}\right)^k\] \[1-\frac{3}{7}=\frac{4}{7}\] reciprocal is \(\frac{7}{4}\) so the sum is \(\frac{7}{4}\)
final answer \[\frac{7}{6}-\frac{7}{4}\] which you may be able to do in your head of not, but that is the last step
\[\frac{ 7 }{ 6 }-\frac{ 7 }{ 4 }=\frac{ 28 }{ 24 }-\frac{ 42 }{ 24 }=-\frac{ 7 }{ 12 }\]
And the reciprocals for each part of this equation are taken because everything is to the power of k?
lol no
it is because \[\sum r^n=\frac{1}{1-r}\] if \(|r|<1\)
FFFF that's right. ...Wow, I have that equation right next to me. WAY TO BE.
just saying you can compute it in your head because it is easy to subtract a number from 1, and easy to take the reciprocal
which is what \[\frac{1}{1-r}\] means
the first one requires more work unfortunately
any ideas or no? (just asking)
1st one partial fractions
telescoping series
the partial fractions for #1 are: \[\sum_{k=2}^{\infty} \left(\frac{3}{k-1}-\frac{3}{k}\right)\]
\[\sum_{k=2}^{\infty} \left(\frac{3}{1}-\frac{3}{2}+\frac{3}{2}-\frac{3}{3}+\frac{3}{3}-\frac{3}{4}\right)=3-\lim_{k\to \infty}\frac{3}{k}=3-0=3\]
this is my first take
or, same way \[\sum_{k=2}^{\infty} \left(\frac{3}{k-1}-\frac{3}{k}\right)=\sum_{k=2}^{\infty} \left(\frac{3}{k-1}\right)-\sum_{k=2}^{\infty}\left(\frac{3}{k}\right)=\sum_{k=1}^{\infty} \left(\frac{3}{k}\right)-\sum_{k=2}^{\infty}\left(\frac{3}{k}\right)=A_1=3\]
another way is to see that all the terms get killed off except for the three plus, minus, plus, minus etc
I got \[\sum_{k=2}^{\infty}\frac{ 3 }{ k }-\frac{ 3 }{ k-1 }\]
yup
I suppose it doesn't matter because it'll telescope either way?
I don't know what you precisely mean by this
I proposed to approaches: \[\sum_{k=2}^{\infty} \left(\frac{3}{1}-\frac{3}{2}+\frac{3}{2}-\frac{3}{3}+\frac{3}{3}-\frac{3}{4}\right)=3-\lim_{k\to \infty}\frac{3}{k}=3-0=3\] and #2, or, same way \[\sum_{k=2}^{\infty} \left(\frac{3}{k-1}-\frac{3}{k}\right)=\sum_{k=2}^{\infty} \left(\frac{3}{k-1}\right)-\sum_{k=2}^{\infty}\left(\frac{3}{k}\right)=\sum_{k=1}^{\infty} \left(\frac{3}{k}\right)-\sum_{k=2}^{\infty}\left(\frac{3}{k}\right)=A_1=3\]
my notations were off a bit, but you get the concept
Your equation was a flipped version of mine is what I meant. And yeah, I get it. Thanks!
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