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OpenStudy (anonymous):

More sigma series questions (but for sums this time)!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I need to find the sum of \[\sum_{k=2}^{\infty} \frac{ 3 }{ k^2-k }\] and \[\sum_{k=0}^{\infty} \frac{ 1-3^k }{ 7^k }\] and I have no idea where to begin with simplifying these.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you can split into partial fractions in the first case. or compare to 3/k^2-(1/100)k^2 (after some jth term it will be always greater)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

The concept here is that once series converges after some jth term (say 1000000th), then it would converge starting from 1st term as well right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

( because the infinite series from jth term, is just lacking a finite scalar - i.e series from 1st to jth term)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

am I being ridiculous?

OpenStudy (misty1212):

HI!!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Not gonna lie, I did not understand half of that, m8.

OpenStudy (misty1212):

second one or first?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Any help with either is great! I feel like these problems are JUST within reach but the stupid things are evading me like woah.

OpenStudy (misty1212):

second one is easiest for sure \[\sum \frac{1}{7^k}-\sum \left(\frac{3}{7}\right)^k\] both are easy to add

OpenStudy (misty1212):

you can do it in your head

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\large \sum_{n=1}^{\infty}{\rm A}_n=\sum_{n=j}^{\infty}{\rm A}_n+\sum_{n=1}^{j-1}{\rm A}_n\] is this correct?

OpenStudy (misty1212):

what is \(1-\frac{1}{7}\)?

OpenStudy (misty1212):

?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@misty1212 See, it seemed that way to me too, but the answer choices I have listed for this problem are: \[-\frac{ 7 }{ 6 }, -\frac{ 7 }{ 8 }, -\frac{ 7 }{ 18 }, -\frac{ 7 }{ 4 }, and - \frac{ 7 }{ 12 }.\]

OpenStudy (misty1212):

we are not done yet

OpenStudy (misty1212):

we haven't got the answer, we are working towards it what is \(1-\frac{1}{7}\)?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@misty1212 Ah! Well then, it's just \[\frac{ 6 }{ 7 }\].

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\large \sum_{n=1}^{\infty}{\rm A}_n=\sum_{n=j}^{\infty}{\rm A}_n+\sum_{n=1}^{j-1}{\rm A}_n\] we know that \[\sum_{n=1}^{j-1}{\rm A}_n\]is constant/scalar, so we can say let\[k=\sum_{n=1}^{j-1}{\rm A}_n\] so k is constant. thus, \[\large \sum_{n=1}^{\infty}{\rm A}_n=\sum_{n=j}^{\infty}{\rm A}_n+k\] and this way if infinite series that starts from n=j converges, then the infinite series that starts from n=1 must converge (provided all terms from n=1 to n=j are defined). (THEORY THAT IF SERIES CONVERGES AFTER JTH TERM THEN IT CONVERGES AFTER 1ST TERM)

OpenStudy (misty1212):

it is going to take a couple steps we have to compute each then subtract but both you can compute in your head where \(\frac{6}{7}\) right ans what is the reciprocal of \(\frac{6}{7}\)?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I know your questions are to evaluate actually, as opposed to determine convergence, but what I say is just for future to nail the series with comparison test.

OpenStudy (misty1212):

i meant "and what is the reciprocal of \(\frac{6}{7}\)?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@fbi2015 Any bit helps, believe me. I do recognize that equation.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Reciprocal is \[\frac{ 7 }{ 6 }\]

OpenStudy (misty1212):

we are gong to compute \[\sum\left(\frac{1}{7}\right)^k\] mentally \[1-\frac{1}{7}=\frac{6}{7}\] and the reciprocal of \(\frac{6}{7}=\frac{7}{6}\) so \[\sum\left(\frac{1}{7}\right)^k=\frac{7}{6}\]

OpenStudy (misty1212):

repeat for \[\sum \left(\frac{3}{7}\right)^k\] \[1-\frac{3}{7}=\frac{4}{7}\] reciprocal is \(\frac{7}{4}\) so the sum is \(\frac{7}{4}\)

OpenStudy (misty1212):

final answer \[\frac{7}{6}-\frac{7}{4}\] which you may be able to do in your head of not, but that is the last step

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\frac{ 7 }{ 6 }-\frac{ 7 }{ 4 }=\frac{ 28 }{ 24 }-\frac{ 42 }{ 24 }=-\frac{ 7 }{ 12 }\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

And the reciprocals for each part of this equation are taken because everything is to the power of k?

OpenStudy (misty1212):

lol no

OpenStudy (misty1212):

it is because \[\sum r^n=\frac{1}{1-r}\] if \(|r|<1\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

FFFF that's right. ...Wow, I have that equation right next to me. WAY TO BE.

OpenStudy (misty1212):

just saying you can compute it in your head because it is easy to subtract a number from 1, and easy to take the reciprocal

OpenStudy (misty1212):

which is what \[\frac{1}{1-r}\] means

OpenStudy (misty1212):

the first one requires more work unfortunately

OpenStudy (misty1212):

any ideas or no? (just asking)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

1st one partial fractions

OpenStudy (anonymous):

telescoping series

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the partial fractions for #1 are: \[\sum_{k=2}^{\infty} \left(\frac{3}{k-1}-\frac{3}{k}\right)\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\sum_{k=2}^{\infty} \left(\frac{3}{1}-\frac{3}{2}+\frac{3}{2}-\frac{3}{3}+\frac{3}{3}-\frac{3}{4}\right)=3-\lim_{k\to \infty}\frac{3}{k}=3-0=3\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

this is my first take

OpenStudy (anonymous):

or, same way \[\sum_{k=2}^{\infty} \left(\frac{3}{k-1}-\frac{3}{k}\right)=\sum_{k=2}^{\infty} \left(\frac{3}{k-1}\right)-\sum_{k=2}^{\infty}\left(\frac{3}{k}\right)=\sum_{k=1}^{\infty} \left(\frac{3}{k}\right)-\sum_{k=2}^{\infty}\left(\frac{3}{k}\right)=A_1=3\]

OpenStudy (misty1212):

another way is to see that all the terms get killed off except for the three plus, minus, plus, minus etc

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I got \[\sum_{k=2}^{\infty}\frac{ 3 }{ k }-\frac{ 3 }{ k-1 }\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yup

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I suppose it doesn't matter because it'll telescope either way?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I don't know what you precisely mean by this

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I proposed to approaches: \[\sum_{k=2}^{\infty} \left(\frac{3}{1}-\frac{3}{2}+\frac{3}{2}-\frac{3}{3}+\frac{3}{3}-\frac{3}{4}\right)=3-\lim_{k\to \infty}\frac{3}{k}=3-0=3\] and #2, or, same way \[\sum_{k=2}^{\infty} \left(\frac{3}{k-1}-\frac{3}{k}\right)=\sum_{k=2}^{\infty} \left(\frac{3}{k-1}\right)-\sum_{k=2}^{\infty}\left(\frac{3}{k}\right)=\sum_{k=1}^{\infty} \left(\frac{3}{k}\right)-\sum_{k=2}^{\infty}\left(\frac{3}{k}\right)=A_1=3\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

my notations were off a bit, but you get the concept

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Your equation was a flipped version of mine is what I meant. And yeah, I get it. Thanks!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

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