Solve the given linear-quadratic system graphically. y = −(x − 2)2 + 3 y = −4 Please lists steps... I need to know how to do it
@amistre64
You would need to graph both equations to solve. Are you able to do so?
set \[-(x+2)^2+3=-4\] and solve for \(x\)
@satellite73 graphically no algebraically
oops typo there sorry \[-(x-2)^2+3=-4\] solve for \(x\) takes three steps
The only thing that is bothering me is the - before the "(" How would I foil it?
oh no!!!
don't foil nothing
lets go through the steps, there aer only three of them
Lol. How would I do it then. I don't know how to do it graphically or algebraically
Are you able to graph y=-4?
\[-(x-2)^2+3=-4\] subtract 3 from both sides what do you get?
wouldnt you move four over?
no
-(x-2)^2+7
You need to isolate the variable.
subtract 3 from both sides of the equal sign
don't add 4 to both sides,you would be working backwards
@satellite73 He won't understand if you are just giving directions, you must explain why.
so... -(x-2)^2=-7
right now change the sing of both sides, i.e. get rid of both minus signs
*sign
(x-2)^2=7
explanation comes with the doing
right
now take the square root of both sides, i.e. get rid of the square on the left don't forget the \(\pm\)
x=2\[\pm \sqrt{7}\]
that sort of came out right
bingo
\[x=2\pm\sqrt7\]
here is the graph if you really need it http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=y%3D-%28x-2%29^2%2B3%2Cy%3D-4
x=4.6 or -.645
so then I plug it in to get Y.
notice no foil was harmed in solving this question
lol no you don't plug it in to get \(y\) you are told at the outset that \(y=-4\)
Oh yea, thats true
The solution to the system is (−1, −6) and (5, −6). thats the answer
@satellite73 would I round the answer to 5?
@satellite73 Anyway you can help me?
i am lost now
unless perhaps there is a typo in the question
@Beleaguer It would've been easier if you graphed the two.
could it have actually been \[-(x-2)^2-3=-4\]?
thats exactly how I am right now
Just graph the two and see where they meet.
actually it makes no sense anyway how can the answer be (−1, −6) and (5, −6). when you are told \(y=-4\) was it really \[y=-6\]?
Nope, its +3 = -4. I pasted it from the book. Maybe the book is wrong? lol i have no idea
now that i see it, it is either a typo on their part of yours
\[-(x-2)^2+3=-9\\ -(x-2)^2=-9\\ (x-2)^2=-9\\ x-2=3, x-2=-3\\ x=-1,x=-5\]
now i made a typo, first line should have been \[-(x-2)^2+3=-6\]
if they wrote \(y=-4\) they meant \(y=-6\) that is clear, because both answers have \(-6\) in the second coordinate
What about this y = −(x − 2)2 + 8 y = −9
I got x= 6.123
lorda mercy lets assume there is not typo here stop with the decimals already
thats what we are supposed to use
x= 2+rad17
\[--(x-2)^2+8=-9\\ -(x-2)^2=-17\\ (x-2)^2=17\\ x-2=\pm\sqrt{17}\\ x=2\pm\sqrt{17}\]
yeah you got it
thats what I got, but woah...theres more xD
this is the answer -.- The solution to the system is (−1, −1) and (5, −1).
I am going to look on the internet on how to solve it graphically..
the formula for vertex is -b/2a, right?
can you post a screen shot?
if \(y=-9\) it cannot be \(-1\) at the same time
that is the answer if you solve \[-(x-2)^2+8=-1\]
either there are massive typos here, of there is a problem in the translation
you cannot have \(y=-9\) and have a solution that has anything other than \(-9\) in the second coordinate maybe your math teacher was on the sauce when he/she wrote these, or copied and pasted incorrectly
\[-(x-2)^2+8=-1\\ -(x-2)^2-9\\ (x-2)^2=9\\ x-2=3,x-2=-3\\ x=5,x=-1\] solutions are \((5,-1),(-1,-1)\)
but that is \(y=-1\) NOT \(y=-9\)
I guess it is because we are solving it graphically can you help me that way @satellite73
it is the same graphically!!
solutions will be the same, makes no difference
Well, I literally pasted exactly what I saw
there is the graphical solution to \[y=-(x-2)^2+8\\ y=-1\] notice that it is \((5,-1),(-1,-1)\) http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=y%3D-%28x-2%29^2%2B8%2Cy%3D-1
i know you are confused because of the mistake in the question, but try to ignore that if \(y=-1\) then \(y=-1\) and if \(y=-9\) then \(y=-9\) it cannot be otherwise
Ok, lets try something else.... maybe I will understand it. How about this problem. \[y=-(x-1)^{2}+11 y= x+4\]
perhaps the teacher made a mistake and did the first step mentally and therefore wrote \[-(x-2)^2+8=-9\] instead of \(-(x-2)^2+8=-1\) because the first step in solving \[-(x-2)^2+8=-1\] would be to turn it in to \[-(x-2)^2=-9\]
First step is set it equal to each other?
it is not a matter of you understanding there is a mistake in the question, take my word for it
Well this is from another source, so I am going to attempt it and see
I don't recall learning the other way
look if you went to solve a simple one like \[y=2x+1,y=9\] you would set \[2x+1=9\\2x=8\\ x=4\] and the solution would be \((4,9)\) not some other number in the second slot
but what about the one I just posted
\[-(x+1)^2=11\\ y=x+4\] is a different kind of question because of the \(x+4\) in this case you would have to solve \[-(x+1)^2+11=x+4\] here you don't know what \(y\) is, so you would have to find it
Where do I go from there
for this one, you need to put it all on one side of the equal sign and solve \[(x+1)^2+x+4-11=0\]
So by moving the 4 over the - goes away?
then expand and combine like terms \[x^2+2x+1+x-7\\ x^2+3x+6=0\]
i added \((x+1)^2\) and subtracted \(11\) from both sides easier to work with \((x+1)^2\) than \(-(x+1)^2\)
any chance i can convince you to post a screen shot of the original two questions?
Yea, I will. I just want to get this problem straight because I know this will be on my test tomorrow 100%, im not sure about the other ones
hope your teacher doesn't make the same mistake on the test!
So, do you mind going over the process of eliminating the -? I am lost on that part, sorry for being so picky and ty for sticking through
let me make sure i have the question correct is it \[y=-(x+1)^2+11\\ y=x+4\]?
I keep thinking I would distribute the - into the x and -1 therefore making it (-x+1)^2
hell no!!
Yes
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