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OpenStudy (clarence):

How do I find the value of c?

OpenStudy (clarence):

\[\sum_{n=2}^{\infty}7(1+c)^{-n}=2\]

imqwerty (imqwerty):

let (1+c)=α then then we have-\[\sum_{n=2}^{\infty}7α^{-n}=2\] \[\frac{ 7 }{ α^2 }+\frac{ 7 }{ α^3 }+\frac{7 }{ α^4 }.......+\frac{ 7 }{ α^{\infty}}=2\] this is an infinite GP whos summation is 2 can u do it frm here :)

OpenStudy (welshfella):

The common ratio of this GP is 7/a^3 divided by 7/a^2 which is 1/a The sum to infinity =. A1 / (1-r) Where a1 is the first term (7/a^3 and r. , common ratio, = 1/a So A1 / (1 - 1/a) = 2 Solve this for a Then find c from a = (1+ c)

OpenStudy (welshfella):

Oh in the last equation A1 = 7/a^3

OpenStudy (clarence):

So what you're saying is to find a from this \[\frac{ \frac{ 7 }{ a^3 } }{ 1-\frac{ 1 }{ a } }\] And then find c from a=1+c?

OpenStudy (clarence):

Because what I'm getting for a right now is a really weird number, assuming that I'm doing it right of course

OpenStudy (clarence):

\[a=\frac{ 1 }{ 6 }(2+\sqrt[3]{386-6\sqrt{4137}}+\sqrt[3]{386+6\sqrt{4137}})\]

imqwerty (imqwerty):

no its wrong :) try putting α=2

OpenStudy (clarence):

Sorry, internet issues, so \[\frac{ \frac{ 7 }{ 2^{3} } }{ 1-\frac{ 1 }{ 2 }}\] which equals 7/4 and let that equal 1 + c which means that c would equal 3/4?

imqwerty (imqwerty):

sorry i did some mistake :) ima do it again

OpenStudy (clarence):

It's all good :) Just on that note, I attempted this question earlier before and got 5/2 +/- (3*sqrt(7))/2, with the +/- symbol due to getting a quadratic function, with one of the answers in addition and the other subtraction

imqwerty (imqwerty):

ok the values of x which i got are really vry bad x~ -1.17 x~1.705

OpenStudy (clarence):

x as in c?

imqwerty (imqwerty):

sry x=α

OpenStudy (clarence):

And then I'll replace it into what I did before rather than 2?

imqwerty (imqwerty):

yes :)

OpenStudy (clarence):

Okay so with 1.705 I got 3.415 and with the -1.17 I got -2.3565. a=1+c so a either equals 2.415 or -3.3565?

OpenStudy (clarence):

so c equals*

OpenStudy (alekos):

I get α= (1+sqrt15)/2

OpenStudy (clarence):

And c to be that minus 1 then?

OpenStudy (alekos):

Yes that's right. I just checked my α into the original expression and it does in fact equal 2

OpenStudy (alekos):

So c = (sqrt15-1)/2

OpenStudy (clarence):

What happened to the 1 plus from earlier? Shouldn't it be (1 + sqrt(15))/2 - 1?

OpenStudy (alekos):

It boils down to a quadratic 2α^2-2α-7=0

OpenStudy (alekos):

So α actually might have 2 values

OpenStudy (alekos):

I just picked the positive value

OpenStudy (clarence):

Ahh, I see, that makes sense

OpenStudy (alekos):

In answer to your question what you wrote down can be simplified to my value for c

OpenStudy (clarence):

Okay then, well thanks for your help (again) on what was quite a confusing question, much appreciated :)

OpenStudy (alekos):

No problem

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